Harish, That is indeed a positive move. Would you be able to speak to this and potentially present about this at the UASG workshop at the ICANN meeting in Hyderabad? -Ram ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ram Mohan o: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701 Skype:gliderpilot30 |@rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan *From:* Harish Chowdhary [mailto:harish@nixi.in] *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2016 8:19 AM *To:* ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UA-discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 18 Hi All, Yes,it may be possible that it may take another 15+ years to resolve all the issues of UA.However, there is recent positive development in India regarding the same. It is about the launch of Countries *First Make in India IDN based Mobile Email Services on 10th Oct 2016* *As per the recent announcement of XgenPLUS:* XgenPlus is proud to share with you that we have developed Countries first made in India "client-side" implemented mobile app of non-Latin, character-based Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) email to support countries Digital India Mission in various local/regional languages which means client can have email ID in Hindi (हिंदी), Gujrati (ગુજરાતી), Urdu (اردو), Punjabi (ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੇ) , Tamil (தமிழ்), Telgu (తెలుగు), Marathi (मराठी) and lot more. They are launching Country's First Make in India IDN based Mobile Email Services with the name *DATAMAIL .* It a milestone, in pursuit of complete UA. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary From: ua-discuss-request@icann.org Sent: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:30:11 To: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 18 Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss@icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss <//prolinks.rediffmailpro.com/cgi-bin/prored.cgi?red=https%3A%2F%2Fmm%2Eicann%2Eorg%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fua%2Ddiscuss&rediffng=0> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ua-discuss-request@icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner@icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Some universal acceptance problems last 15+ years... (Richard Merdinger) 2. IDNs & i18n (Andre Schappo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 16:47:32 +0000 From: Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger@godaddy.com> To: Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info>, Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Some universal acceptance problems last 15+ years... Message-ID: <BCDB84B0-0CF7-4E5B-AF20-F2527A2A68E9@godaddy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As we look at outreach and efforts to accept issue reports and loop-close on reported issues, it will be extremely useful to include links to materials that will enable bosses to send to their engineering teams saying?hey, do it like this. --Rich From: <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Ram Mohan < rmohan@afilias.info> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 3:03 AM To: Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Some universal acceptance problems last 15+ years... I blame it on the culture, and on the humans who enable it. Agree that it's not *just* the programmer's fault, although in your example below, he must have been semi sedated to write code that catches a non 3/4 character tld, and then pop up an error message; so inefficient :) It's literally no extra work to change a regular expression match in code. It's a kind of laziness combined with apathy that drives this. Some developers depend on a dns lookup to determine a valid tld, while others lookup a static list. Poor programming choices, much heartbreak lies in those directions, too. Ram On Sep 29, 2016 2:51 PM, "Kurt Pritz" < kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com>> wrote: Ram: I wouldn't necessarily blame it on the programmer: Boss: Hello young man. We have a bit of a problem to solve. Some of our web site users are mis-typing their email addresses. When different government departments need to get hold of them to correct an error on a form they submitted, we cannot. These government departments want us to do a check on their email addresses to at least make sure they are the right format and allowable content. Programmer: Sure thing. What's our budget for this? Boss: Zero. So, semi-smart solution for no budget. Kurt ________________ Kurt Pritz kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com> +1.310.400.4184<tel:%2B1.310.400.4184> Skype: kjpritz On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:32 PM, "Jiankang Yao" < yaojk@cnnic.cn<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>> wrote: Dear Ram, I think that you can be titled as UA pioneer. Another 15+ years are needed for UA work. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Ram Mohan<mailto:rmohan@afilias.info <rmohan@afilias.info>> Date: 2016-09-29 01:50 To: UA-discuss<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org <UA-discuss@icann.org>> Subject: [UA-discuss] Some universal acceptance problems last 15+ years... On Sep 12, 2001, I helped launch the first non 2/3 character TLD, .INFO. Many of you have heard about how we struggled to get applications, browsers, web forms and email systems to recognize the world?s first four-character TLD as a legitimate extension, including my creation of the Office of the CTO (in a 3 person startup) to get large companies to return my calls. Well, 15+ years later, today I was on the website of the Pennsylvania state government, and filled in my email address (ending in .INFO <http://in%20.INFO>). I hit submit, and here is the prompt that came up. I hit OK, and the site accepted my email and I moved forward with my tasks, but it?s galling that some programmer _recently_ decided that a non 2/3 character TLD based email address merited a warning message. <image001(09-29-10-27-48).png> Goes to show how long bad habits persist. Also goes to show why the UASG?s work is important. -Ram ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ram Mohan Executive Vice President & CTO Afilias |Ireland|Canada|USA|India|China o: +1.215.706.5700 x103<tel:%2B1.215.706.5700%20x103>; m: +1.215.431.095 8<tel:%2B1.215.431.0958>; f: +1.215.706.5701<tel:%2B1.215.706.5701> Skype:gliderpilot30 |@rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan< <http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan%3c>http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan>