+1 @Danny Its really surprising DON why facts were not disclosed to community, i hope atleast now at F2F response on each of the below points will be provided. TC Diana
*Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 2:46 PM *From:* "danny dong" <dannydong@tech-center.com> *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org> *Cc:* "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Hello Don
Solemnly your below note is not at all vindicated and graceful. Conferring to ICANN procedure we as community must value each other comments and if an issue is been upraised to administrative group then its onus of that group to mien and take cautious decision instead of out rightly snubbing it on peculiar identical or disinclinations
*Can you be impartial and translucent to community by sharing during F2F: *
- What translucent procedure was adopted in appointment and selection of UA Ambassador? - Why feedback and voting from community was not been done for their selection? - How many individuals put on for this position till now? - What was done with those solicitations? - What was the terms for which they were been positioned? - What were the roles and responsibilities of these individuals in there region? - What were the monitoring benchmarks? - What is the evolution testimony of each individual?
Apologetic the entire selection process of UA Ambassador was kept in few hands whereas it should have been similar to selection via election as done for other administrative group positions because of which erroneous selections happened.
Danny
*Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 1:23 PM *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org> *To:* "danny dong" <dannydong@tech-center.com>, "Richard Marson" < Richardmarson@techie.com>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* RE: [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Thank you for your note.
With regard to the Ambassadors, I know them all. (Note that knowing me is not a requirement to be an ambassador)
They all know the topic very well and for many it is because they work in the space. They also each speak and present well.
They are able to present on the topic to a variety of audiences.
I hope that answer your query.
Don
*From:* danny dong <dannydong@tech-center.com> *Sent:* Friday, 4 January 2019 7:50 PM *To:* Richard Marson <Richardmarson@techie.com>; Don Hollander < don.hollander@icann.org>; ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
++Agree with opinions of Richard and William. Its must to be conversed and closed on precedence in F2F.
DON what kind of individuals you all have designated to symbolize our community, i will also address this in March during ICANN public forum, its serious issue of conflict of interest and individuals with such beliefs are jeopardy for UASG.
Danny Dong
Civil Society
*Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 9:05 AM *From:* "Richard Marson" <Richardmarson@techie.com> *To:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan@techie.com> *Cc:* ashishmodi@xgenplus.com, agalila@mcit.gov.eg, don.hollander@icann.org, ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re:[UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
++William Thanks for emphasizing, accurate and necessity for UASG
Dear All
I strappingly sustenance in what William mentioned. UASG leadership must think and look well-matched individuals in team who contemplate such authoritative position, it’s not at all for folks who believe to gain some monitory benefit from it.
It must be charted in F2F meeting in Washington, serious actions must be initiated against such thinking folks and guiding principle must be made for selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
Best Wishes
Richard Marson
*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:14 AM *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan@techie.com> *To:* ashishmodi@xgenplus.com, agalila@mcit.gov.eg, don.hollander@icann.org *Cc:* ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Hello AM
I am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian’s UA Ambassador as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.
You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our business cards during ICANN60.
Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a pact on any of your edicts.
Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness of UA.
Your heroic self-proclamation that “UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants and paid any $'s” evidently substantiate that UASG leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations looking for voluntary services.
Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias, Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.
If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in the upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their stimulus.
UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious decision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I could not make offer for this position as I can’t do justice with it but have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.
William Donovan
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM *From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> *To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi@xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" < william.donovan@techie.com>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander@icann.org> *Cc:* "`ua-discuss@icann.org`" <`ua-discuss@icann.org`>, " ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
+1
Thanks a lot.
All the Best,
Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
Operation Sector.
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*From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ashish Modi *Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM *To:* `william donovan` <william.donovan@techie.com>; `don hollander` < don.hollander@icann.org> *Cc:* `ua-discuss@icann.org`; ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,
Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I partially agree with your point.
We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.
We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there , please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.
Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I would agree, we can always improve.
To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was expected from them and also prepare them for one year.
It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype, whatsapp or any other medium.
Thanks, AM UA Ambassador to India
Skype:- ashishmodi5
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*From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan@techie.com> MailId : [87613749] *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org> *Cc:* "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting *Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PM
Hello Ram, Don and other community members Happy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What’s the new pipeline of fresh faces for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next week? William Donovan
*Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org> *To:* "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
FYI:
The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC from January 7 to January 9th.
The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.
The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan particularly in light of the ICANN’s Board inclusion of Universal Acceptance in its strategic agenda.
Like all our meetings, we’ll provide remote access.
If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me know so that we can manage the logistics.
Thanks.
Don
Don Hollander
Secretary General – UASG
Skype: Don_Hollander
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