Edmon is right. I would add that, since we have a budget to work from, if translations involve professional tech translators, then this would be a useful destination for some of the available funds. Tony Harris On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia> wrote:
On the topic of translation, I think we should not depend on the "standard" ICANN translation. Perhaps not even the "standard languages" though it is fine to start there. I feel it is an imperative that we find local tech savvy partners to do what is perhaps better called "interpretations" than "translations". Many words/sentences will be better interpreted in local lingo than translated (which would feel foreign).
I would suggest we proactively engage relevant local GAC/ALAC/ccNSO to get their input as well. They may be the ones who are most familiar with the relevant local lingo.
So we should, like how we started ourselves, work with an alliance of the willing... to help us develop local versions of the core documents together.
Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Mitchell (CELA) Sent: Friday, 29 January 2016 04:15 AM To: Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de>; Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> Cc: UA-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Document Translations
6 UN languages not 5 - don't forget French (which is often the governing language in UN negotiated outputs)! Portuguese is not one of the UN official languages but one that ICANN has been supporting interpretation for.
-----Original Message----- From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lars Steffen Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:41 AM To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> Cc: UA-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Document Translations
I have 2 colleagues as translators at eco for the German job.
Lars
Am 28.01.2016 um 20:37 schrieb Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org :
The five UN Languages: English, Russian, Chinese, Arabic & Spanish - sometime Portuguese as well.
And Mark, this doesn't HAVE to be a funded activity - we have already had community engagement in other translations that we've done.
Some of the documents are quite short and straight forward. The Introduction to UA does not fall into that category.
Don
On 29/01/16, 8:16 AM, "Christian Dawson" <dawson@i2coalition.com> wrote:
Don,
What are the 'standard' ICANN translation languages?
-Christian
On Jan 28, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> wrote:
I had considered that we should translate to Spanish and German simply because Luisa could perform this translation or review someone else's translation. It seemed to be "low-hanging fruit".
That said, UA-Readiness is probably more important to Cyrillic, Arabic and various Asian script-users. (I wish there was more interest in South America...)
If money is no obstacle, I vote for Simplified Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian, Thai and Persian to start.
I know there is interest in Afghan and Pakistan governments, too.
-----Original Message----- From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Don Hollander Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:23 PM To: UA-discuss@icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] Document Translations
As we get closer to completing some of our foundation documents, its now time to turn to translation.
The documents that we have or will have ready soon include:
A UA Fact Sheet - complete A quick guide to UA (covers topics and quick recommendations for Acceptance, Validation, Storage, Processing, Display and Confusable Characters) A Definition of UA Readiness An Introduction to Universal Acceptance (a very comprehensive document)
Our quick message to webmasters whose sites are not UA Ready has been translated by the community into 7 lagnuages.
My question is:
1) Do we need to do translation at this point in time? (It is relatively early in our efforts and there may be substantial revisions once we put the documents 'out in the wild') 2) What languages should we translate to?
Your thoughts, please
Don