Fwd: Re: Introduction and apology for slamming you "with that TZ is a legal thing" commentary out of the blue.
Why doesn't the "reply-to" header get set on these messages? I sent this directly by mistake: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [tz] Introduction and apology for slamming you "with that TZ is a legal thing" commentary out of the blue. Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:11:53 -0400 From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.us> To: Peter Ilieve <peter@aldie.co.uk> On 10/20/2011 1:39 PM, Peter Ilieve wrote:
Assuming you managed to set up this mechanism where a legal authority can make requests, how many requests do you think would get made? My guess would be hardly any, maybe even zero. Based on my reading of this list over many years, lots of governments can barely be trusted to tell their own citizens what will happen to the clocks. They probably won't be interested in contacting a bunch of geeks like us, even if they knew we existed.
It may be that these governments are thinking that this is all still done by people changing clocks by hand, so it won't inconvenience anyone if they just announce on the saturday evening news that people should change or not change their clocks that sunday morning. So maybe it would be a good idea to prepare a form letter that can be sent to any agency which enacts a timezone change without any advance notice, explaining the issues involved, and in general the fact that computer systems have to be updated to know the rules, and that some lead time is necessary for this.
I am having the same problem On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Random832 <random832@fastmail.us> wrote:
Why doesn't the "reply-to" header get set on these messages?
I sent this directly by mistake:
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [tz] Introduction and apology for slamming you "with that TZ is a legal thing" commentary out of the blue. Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:11:53 -0400 From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.us> <random832@fastmail.us> To: Peter Ilieve <peter@aldie.co.uk> <peter@aldie.co.uk>
On 10/20/2011 1:39 PM, Peter Ilieve wrote:
Assuming you managed to set up this mechanism where a legal authority can make requests, how many requests do you think would get made? My guess would be hardly any, maybe even zero. Based on my reading of this list over many years, lots of governments can barely be trusted to tell their own citizens what will happen to the clocks. They probably won't be interested in contacting a bunch of geeks like us, even if they knew we existed.
It may be that these governments are thinking that this is all still done by people changing clocks by hand, so it won't inconvenience anyone if they just announce on the saturday evening news that people should change or not change their clocks that sunday morning.
So maybe it would be a good idea to prepare a form letter that can be sent to any agency which enacts a timezone change without any advance notice, explaining the issues involved, and in general the fact that computer systems have to be updated to know the rules, and that some lead time is necessary for this.
Random832 <random832@fastmail.us> writes:
Why doesn't the "reply-to" header get set on these messages?
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
On 24/10/2011, at 16:53 , Russ Allbery wrote:
Random832 <random832@fastmail.us> writes:
Why doesn't the "reply-to" header get set on these messages?
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html It's silly non-discussion, not worth its time and should just be put to reply-to-list :-P Edwin, trolling.
Random832 wrote:
Why doesn't the "reply-to" header get set on these messages?
This is one of those areas where where there is no 'right' answer ;) Just like top posting ... I am sure that the RIGHT answer is getting much more intelligent email clients so that WE can flag email folders that relate to LISTS and automatically reply to the list. I understand the reasoning for not setting the reply to back to the list and like probably half of the users I don't agree with it. A lot more of my list folders simply need 'reply', and currently I have to remember to 'reply all' to the lists that don't - which seems totally wrong since one ends up with multiple copies even with 'delete duplicate' switched on! Perhaps we need 2 email addresses for a list, one that does and one that doesn't ... then 'admin' can see just how many prefer each? ( And there should be a rule that top posters don't have quote switched on either ... since they never remove all the dros below the small it they are answering :) ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
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