DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3
Dear Team, Hope everything is great. Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package as our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST timings starting from last week in April till last week in October which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes. Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes. Thanks in advance for your usual support. Best Regards, [https://www.ericsson.com]<https://www.ericsson.com/> Amir Ayad Senior Support Engineer MMEA MS NEW SSE MOBINIL 2LO Mobile: +201284336575 amir.ayad@ericsson.com<mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Ericsson Smart Village KM 28 Cairo/Alex Road, Bldg#86B 6580, Sixth of October City Egypt ericsson.com<https://www.ericsson.com/>
Hi Amir, Replied from tz@iana.org - please do not post to tz-announce@iana.org Please review latest posts to see notice and discussion: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/ https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/thread.html and patches: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230301/08c02899/0001-Egypt-n... https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230302/c15164f6/0001-Max-max... Please provide, if possible, a link to an official Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the release. On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package as our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST timings starting from *last week in April till last week in October* which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes. Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes. Thanks in advance for your usual support.
-- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Hello Dear, Thanks for your feedback, please check below post from official page of presidency of the council of Ministers: https://www.facebook.com/EgyptianCabinet/posts/638829614954129/ Also the same news was published in many newspapers as below: * https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283 * https://www.youm7.com/story/2023/3/1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9... * https://www.skynewsarabia.com/business/1601471-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%82%D9%81-7-%D... Thanks & Best Regards, Amir Adib -----Original Message----- From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:00 PM To: tz@iana.org Cc: arab@gac.icann.org; Amir Ayad <amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Subject: Re: [tz] DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3 Hi Amir, Replied from tz@iana.org<mailto:tz@iana.org> - please do not post to tz-announce@iana.org<mailto:tz-announce@iana.org> Please review latest posts to see notice and discussion: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/ https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/thread.html and patches: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230301/08c02899/0001-Egypt-n... https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230302/c15164f6/0001-Max-max... Please provide, if possible, a link to an official Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the release. On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package as
our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST
timings starting from *last week in April till last week in October*
which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes.
Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes.
Thanks in advance for your usual support.
-- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Facebook post Google translated: - The Council of Ministers approved a draft law regarding the return of the summer time system. The text of the draft law came as follows: “From the last Friday of April until the end of the last Thursday of October of each Gregorian year, the legal hour in the Arab Republic of Egypt is the hour according to the time followed, advanced by sixty minutes.” which also does not state the times on those dates at which the changes occur! Are there any official posts of the final law, preferably in French or English, under an official Egyptian government domain in Egypt .gov.eg. such as the official Egyptian gazette? Unfortunately the Egyptian government has previously cancelled published summer time changes with little notice, when the laws were not published, due to disagreements between the PM, the Cabinet, and the Parliament, possibly causing hesitation to publish these changes until Egypt commits this time: https://codeofmatt.com/time-zone-chaos-inevitable-in-egypt/ Interesting that it took MS 12 days to publish a Windows update, after Matt's reg update; no mention of how long until Android and iPhone updates; and Egypt incurred an $8M IATA fine, plus $2M loss by EgyptAir, and other costs of the economic chaos caused by the last minute cancellation: https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/Travell... IANA/ICANN should fine the CC TLD $1M/day for each day under 32 between the regulation, decree, or law being published and the day of the time change, and add $1M for each transition if they do not publish the time of day. This management fee should be added to all CC TLD contracts. Income could be spent reminding governments to plan time changes well ahead. I'd split the royalties for the idea with Paul and ADO! ;^> On 2023-03-07 12:38, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, please check below post from official page of presidency of the council of Ministers:
https://www.facebook.com/EgyptianCabinet/posts/638829614954129/ <https://www.facebook.com/EgyptianCabinet/posts/638829614954129/>
Also the same news was published in many newspapers as below:
* https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283 <https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283>
* https://www.youm7.com/story/2023/3/1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9... <https://www.youm7.com/story/2023/3/1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9...>
* https://www.skynewsarabia.com/business/1601471-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%82%D9%81-7-%D... <https://www.skynewsarabia.com/business/1601471-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%82%D9%81-7-%D...>
Replied from tz@iana.org - please do not post to tz-announce@iana.org Please review latest posts to see notice and discussion: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/ https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/thread.html <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/thread.html> and patches: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230301/08c02899/0001-Egypt-n... https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/attachments/20230302/c15164f6/0001-Max-max... Please provide, if possible, a link to an official Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the release. On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package as our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST timings starting from *last week in April till last week in October* which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes. Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes. Thanks in advance for your usual support.
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Brian Inglis via tz wrote:
Facebook post Google translated:
- The Council of Ministers approved a draft law regarding the return of the summer time system. The text of the draft law came as follows:
“From the last Friday of April until the end of the last Thursday of October of each Gregorian year, the legal hour in the Arab Republic of Egypt is the hour according to the time followed, advanced by sixty minutes.”
which also does not state the times on those dates at which the changes occur!
I read that as "Last Friday in April at 00:00 thru last Thursday in October at 23:59", most likely both would be local time. +--------------------+--------------------------+----------------------+ | Paul Goyette | PGP Key fingerprint: | E-mail addresses: | | (Retired) | FA29 0E3B 35AF E8AE 6651 | paul@whooppee.com | | Software Developer | 0786 F758 55DE 53BA 7731 | pgoyette@netbsd.org | | & Network Engineer | | pgoyette99@gmail.com | +--------------------+--------------------------+----------------------+
Hello Dears, The change is an official one, Please check below the news published in the official Gazette: https://egyptian-gazette.com/egypt/cabinet-approves-restoring-dst-this-year/ Also the same was published in many other official websites: * El Ahram online (oldest newspaper in Egypt): Adjusting the clock - Egypt - Al-Ahram Weekly - Ahram Online<https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/491316.aspx> * Time.is: Time.is 11:59<https://time.is/time_zone_news/egypt_brings_back_dst> * Middle East News Agency: الحكومة توافق على مشروع قانون حول عودة العمل بنظام التوقيت الصيفي وآخر بشأن حوكمة إنشاء الجامعات الأهلية - Welcome to Middle East News Agency (mena.org.eg)<https://www.mena.org.eg/ar/news/dbcall/table/textnews/id/10044253#:~:text=20...> * WorldTimeZone: DST News - Egypt to return of Summer Time daylight saving time in 2023 (worldtimezone.com)<https://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_egypt11.html> * Timeanddate: Egypt Reintroduces DST to Save Energy (timeanddate.com)<https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/dst-egypt-2023.html#:~:text=Egypt%20Re...> / Daylight Saving Time Changes 2023 in Cairo, Egypt (timeanddate.com)<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/change/egypt/cairo> As per all the above it’s official now, so kindly seeking your urgent support as usual to provide us with an updated package the soonest to start implementing it on our nodes as it’ll take some time of integration. Best Regards, [https://www.ericsson.com]<https://www.ericsson.com/> Amir Ayad Senior Support Engineer MMEA MS NEW SSE MOBINIL 2LO Mobile: +201284336575 amir.ayad@ericsson.com<mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Ericsson Smart Village KM 28 Cairo/Alex Road, Bldg#86B 6580, Sixth of October City Egypt ericsson.com<https://www.ericsson.com/> -----Original Message----- From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 6:30 PM To: tz@iana.org Cc: Amir Ayad <amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Subject: Re: [tz] DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3 Facebook post Google translated: - The Council of Ministers approved a draft law regarding the return of the summer time system. The text of the draft law came as follows: “From the last Friday of April until the end of the last Thursday of October of each Gregorian year, the legal hour in the Arab Republic of Egypt is the hour according to the time followed, advanced by sixty minutes.” which also does not state the times on those dates at which the changes occur! Are there any official posts of the final law, preferably in French or English, under an official Egyptian government domain in Egypt .gov.eg. such as the official Egyptian gazette? Unfortunately the Egyptian government has previously cancelled published summer time changes with little notice, when the laws were not published, due to disagreements between the PM, the Cabinet, and the Parliament, possibly causing hesitation to publish these changes until Egypt commits this time: https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444555573... Interesting that it took MS 12 days to publish a Windows update, after Matt's reg update; no mention of how long until Android and iPhone updates; and Egypt incurred an $8M IATA fine, plus $2M loss by EgyptAir, and other costs of the economic chaos caused by the last minute cancellation: https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/Travell... IANA/ICANN should fine the CC TLD $1M/day for each day under 32 between the regulation, decree, or law being published and the day of the time change, and add $1M for each transition if they do not publish the time of day. This management fee should be added to all CC TLD contracts. Income could be spent reminding governments to plan time changes well ahead. I'd split the royalties for the idea with Paul and ADO! ;^> On 2023-03-07 12:38, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, please check below post from official page
of presidency of the council of Ministers:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444
5555731-f13ab6dd621083ce&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u=
https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F63882961495
4129%2F
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
45555731-f13ab6dd621083ce&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u
=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F6388296149
54129%2F>
Also the same news was published in many newspapers as below:
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and patches:
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gypt-now-uses-DST-again.patch
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ax-max.patch Please provide, if possible, a link to an official
Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to
validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the
release.
On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package
as > our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST
timings starting from *last week in April till last week in October*
which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes.
Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes.
Thanks in advance for your usual support.
Below are just news article on news sites, not on official Egyptian government web sites ...gov.eg. Have there been any Laws or Presidential decrees published in the Egyptian Official Gazette (Al-Waqae Al-Misriyya) or https://alamiria.com/ or under the Official Gazette sections of the better news sites? What is happening during Ramadan March 22-April 20? It appears Palestine may be delaying summer time start until after Ramadan this year, and Morocco may be keeping winter time from March 19-April 30! -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry On 2023-03-12 04:07, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
The change is an official one, Please check below the news published in the official Gazette:
https://egyptian-gazette.com/egypt/cabinet-approves-restoring-dst-this-year/ <https://egyptian-gazette.com/egypt/cabinet-approves-restoring-dst-this-year/>
Also the same was published in many other official websites:
* El Ahram online (oldest newspaper in Egypt): Adjusting the clock - Egypt - Al-Ahram Weekly - Ahram Online <https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/491316.aspx> * Time.is: Time.is 11:59 <https://time.is/time_zone_news/egypt_brings_back_dst> * Middle East News Agency: الحكومة توافق على مشروع قانون حول عودة العمل بنظام التوقيت الصيفي وآخر بشأن حوكمة إنشاء الجامعات الأهلية- Welcome to Middle East News Agency (mena.org.eg) <https://www.mena.org.eg/ar/news/dbcall/table/textnews/id/10044253#:~:text=20...> * WorldTimeZone: DST News - Egypt to return of Summer Time daylight saving time in 2023 (worldtimezone.com) <https://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_egypt11.html> * Timeanddate: Egypt Reintroduces DST to Save Energy (timeanddate.com) <https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/dst-egypt-2023.html#:~:text=Egypt%20Re...> / Daylight Saving Time Changes 2023 in Cairo, Egypt (timeanddate.com) <https://www.timeanddate.com/time/change/egypt/cairo>
As per all the above it’s official now, so kindly seeking your urgent support as usual to provide us with an updated package the soonest to start implementing it on our nodes as it’ll take some time of integration.
Best Regards,
https://www.ericsson.com <https://www.ericsson.com/>
*Amir Ayad*
*Senior Support Engineer*
MMEA MS NEW SSE MOBINIL 2LO
Mobile: +201284336575
amir.ayad@ericsson.com <mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com>
Ericsson
Smart Village KM 28 Cairo/Alex Road, Bldg#86B
6580, Sixth of October City
Egypt
ericsson.com <https://www.ericsson.com/>
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 6:30 PM To: tz@iana.org Cc: Amir Ayad <amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Subject: Re: [tz] DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3
Facebook post Google translated:
- The Council of Ministers approved a draft law regarding the return of the summer time system. The text of the draft law came as follows:
“From the last Friday of April until the end of the last Thursday of October of each Gregorian year, the legal hour in the Arab Republic of Egypt is the hour according to the time followed, advanced by sixty minutes.”
which also does not state the times on those dates at which the changes occur!
Are there any official posts of the final law, preferably in French or English, under an official Egyptian government domain in Egypt .gov.eg. such as the official Egyptian gazette?
Unfortunately the Egyptian government has previously cancelled published summer time changes with little notice, when the laws were not published, due to disagreements between the PM, the Cabinet, and the Parliament, possibly causing hesitation to publish these changes until Egypt commits this time:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444555573... <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444555573...>
Interesting that it took MS 12 days to publish a Windows update, after Matt's reg update; no mention of how long until Android and iPhone updates; and Egypt incurred an $8M IATA fine, plus $2M loss by EgyptAir, and other costs of the economic chaos caused by the last minute cancellation:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/Travell... <https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/Travell...>
IANA/ICANN should fine the CC TLD $1M/day for each day under 32 between the regulation, decree, or law being published and the day of the time change, and add $1M for each transition if they do not publish the time of day.
This management fee should be added to all CC TLD contracts.
Income could be spent reminding governments to plan time changes well ahead.
I'd split the royalties for the idea with Paul and ADO! ;^>
On 2023-03-07 12:38, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, please check below post from official page
of presidency of the council of Ministers:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444 <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444>
5555731-f13ab6dd621083ce&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u=
https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F63882961495
4129%2F
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
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=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F6388296149
54129%2F>
Also the same news was published in many newspapers as below:
* https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283 <https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283>
<https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283 <https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/2831283>>
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ax-max.patch Please provide, if possible, a link to an official
Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to
validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the
release.
On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
> Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ package
as > our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying DST
timings starting from *last week in April till last week in October*
which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes.
> Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start implementing on our nodes.
> Thanks in advance for your usual support.
Hello Dears, Please check below same news published in official government websites (......gov.eg) * State Information Service: https://www.sis.gov.eg/Story/252701/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%88%D9%85%D8%... * Ministry of Electricity & Renewable Energy: http://www.nrea.gov.eg/Media/New/2029 Noting that nothing will be changed during Ramadan, the change will take effect on last Friday in April of every year which is after Eid public holiday vacation that’s coming after Ramadan month (public holiday is planned on 21-22 April), so the DST change will occur 1 week after that vacation (exactly on 28th April Dawn) Thanks & Best Regards, Amir Adib -----Original Message----- From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 4:28 AM To: tz@iana.org Cc: Amir Ayad <amir.ayad@ericsson.com> Subject: Re: [tz] DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3 Below are just news article on news sites, not on official Egyptian government web sites ...gov.eg. Have there been any Laws or Presidential decrees published in the Egyptian Official Gazette (Al-Waqae Al-Misriyya) or https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444555573... or under the Official Gazette sections of the better news sites? What is happening during Ramadan March 22-April 20? It appears Palestine may be delaying summer time start until after Ramadan this year, and Morocco may be keeping winter time from March 19-April 30! -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry On 2023-03-12 04:07, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
The change is an official one, Please check below the news published
in the official Gazette:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444
5555731-5fae290b6b030247&q=1&e=77758944-5360-4f38-ba9b-ef068b3dcfb5&u=
https%3A%2F%2Fegyptian-gazette.com%2Fegypt%2Fcabinet-approves-restorin
g-dst-this-year%2F
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
45555731-5fae290b6b030247&q=1&e=77758944-5360-4f38-ba9b-ef068b3dcfb5&u
=https%3A%2F%2Fegyptian-gazette.com%2Fegypt%2Fcabinet-approves-restori
ng-dst-this-year%2F>
Also the same was published in many other official websites:
* El Ahram online (oldest newspaper in Egypt): Adjusting the clock - Egypt -
Al-Ahram Weekly - Ahram Online <https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/491316.aspx>
* Time.is: Time.is 11:59 <https://time.is/time_zone_news/egypt_brings_back_dst>
* Middle East News Agency: الحكومة توافق على مشروع قانون حول عودة العمل بنظام
التوقيت الصيفي وآخر بشأن حوكمة إنشاء الجامعات الأهلية- Welcome to Middle
East News Agency (mena.org.eg)
<https://www.mena.org.eg/ar/news/dbcall/table/textnews/id/10044253#:~:text=20...>
* WorldTimeZone: DST News - Egypt to return of Summer Time daylight saving
time in 2023 (worldtimezone.com)
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444555573...>
* Timeanddate: Egypt Reintroduces DST to Save Energy (timeanddate.com)
<https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/dst-egypt-2023.html#:~:text=Egy
pt%20Reintroduces%20DST%20to%20Save%20Energy%201%20The,Recent%20Years%
20...%205%20Time%20in%20Egypt%20> / Daylight Saving Time Changes 2023
in Cairo, Egypt (timeanddate.com)
As per all the above it’s official now, so kindly seeking your urgent
support as usual to provide us with an updated package the soonest to
start implementing it on our nodes as it’ll take some time of integration.
Best Regards,
*Amir Ayad*
*Senior Support Engineer*
MMEA MS NEW SSE MOBINIL 2LO
Mobile: +201284336575
amir.ayad@ericsson.com<mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com> <mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com>
Ericsson
Smart Village KM 28 Cairo/Alex Road, Bldg#86B
6580, Sixth of October City
Egypt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca<mailto:Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca>>
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 6:30 PM
To: tz@iana.org<mailto:tz@iana.org>
Cc: Amir Ayad <amir.ayad@ericsson.com<mailto:amir.ayad@ericsson.com>>
Subject: Re: [tz] DST Change in Egypt April from GMT+2 to GMT+3
Facebook post Google translated:
- The Council of Ministers approved a draft law regarding the return
of the summer time system. The text of the draft law came as follows:
“From the last Friday of April until the end of the last Thursday of
October of each Gregorian year, the legal hour in the Arab Republic of
Egypt is the hour according to the time followed, advanced by sixty minutes.”
which also does not state the times on those dates at which the changes occur!
Are there any official posts of the final law, preferably in French or
English, under an official Egyptian government domain in Egypt
.gov.eg. such as the official Egyptian gazette?
Unfortunately the Egyptian government has previously cancelled
published summer time changes with little notice, when the laws were
not published, due to disagreements between the PM, the Cabinet, and
the Parliament, possibly causing hesitation to publish these changes until Egypt commits this time:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444
5555731-1fe65af15e373a99&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u=
https%3A%2F%2Fcodeofmatt.com%2Ftime-zone-chaos-inevitable-in-egypt%2F
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
45555731-1fe65af15e373a99&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u
=https%3A%2F%2Fcodeofmatt.com%2Ftime-zone-chaos-inevitable-in-egypt%2F
Interesting that it took MS 12 days to publish a Windows update, after
Matt's reg update; no mention of how long until Android and iPhone
updates; and Egypt incurred an $8M IATA fine, plus $2M loss by
EgyptAir, and other costs of the economic chaos caused by the last minute cancellation:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/T
ravellers-should-arrive-at-airports-early-due-to-.aspx
<https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/232511/Egypt/Politics-/
Travellers-should-arrive-at-airports-early-due-to-.aspx>
IANA/ICANN should fine the CC TLD $1M/day for each day under 32
between the regulation, decree, or law being published and the day of
the time change, and add $1M for each transition if they do not publish the time of day.
This management fee should be added to all CC TLD contracts.
Income could be spent reminding governments to plan time changes well ahead.
I'd split the royalties for the idea with Paul and ADO! ;^>
On 2023-03-07 12:38, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, please check below post from official
page
of presidency of the council of Ministers:
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-45444
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
4>
5555731-f13ab6dd621083ce&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u=
https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F63882961495
4129%2F
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-4544
45555731-f13ab6dd621083ce&q=1&e=559045d7-7acf-40bd-b135-6c980d3ebf22&u
=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FEgyptianCabinet%2Fposts%2F6388296149
54129%2F>
Also the same news was published in many newspapers as below:
*
https://www.youm7.com/story/2023/3/1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8
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gypt-now-uses-DST-again.patch
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ax-max.patch Please provide, if possible, a link to an official
Egyptian government post, source, decree, regulation, or law to
validate that the legal change will occur, which could speed up the
release.
On 2023-03-06 06:27, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Kindly need your support to provide us with an updated TZ
package
as > our Government in Egypt recently declared to start applying
DST
timings starting from *last week in April till last week in
October*
which will impact many Ericsson charging nodes.
Accordingly we need this package the soonest to start
implementing on our nodes.
Thanks in advance for your usual support.
On 2023-03-14 03:11, Amir Ayad via tz wrote:
Please check below same news published in official government websites (......gov.eg)
* State Information Service: https://*www.sis.gov.eg*/Story/252701/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%88%D9%85%D... <https://www.sis.gov.eg/Story/252701/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%88%D9%85%D8%...>
Just a repeat of the same discussion of a *draft* law (flipping language control to English, etc. goes back to the /home/ page, but translation works)
* Ministry of Electricity & Renewable Energy: http://*www.nrea.gov.eg*/Media/New/2029 <http://www.nrea.gov.eg/Media/New/2029>
Access blocked from outside Egypt, but translation works, and another repeat of the same discussion of a *draft* law!
Noting that nothing will be changed during Ramadan, the change will take effect on *last Friday in April of every year* which is after Eid public holiday vacation that’s coming after Ramadan month (public holiday is planned on 21-22 April), so the DST change will occur 1 week after that vacation (exactly on 28^th April Dawn)
Ideally what is desired is a link to an official regulation, decree, or law, officially passed and published, or a quote from it, with all the details including dates and/or times passed and/or in effect, accessible on the web outside Egypt, and/or a copy of the complete text, in a form which may be auto-translated to English for posting, e.g. https://www.mmsp.gov.ma/fr/actualites/passage-%C3%A0-l%E2%80%99heure-gmt-%C3... which is pretty ideal, as it quotes the decree and publication date, thre previous legislation, and the date and time of the change and return to normal.
Thanks for that URL, as it's more official than the Middle East News Agency citation that we were using. I installed the attached proposed further patch. Today the Economist reported that the Egyptian government hopes DST "will curb the country’s electricity usage and free up natural gas for export, since it generates about 60% of Egypt’s power. But Egyptians are rolling their eyes." See: Time’s up—whatever the time is: Fiddling with Egypt’s clocks. The Economist. 2023-03-09. https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/03/09/fiddling-with-eg...
Hi Paul, Will you wait for the draft to become final (especially given their 2 recent attempts to introduce DST) or new tzdata might be released earlier? On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 23:02, Paul Eggert via tz <tz@iana.org> wrote:
Thanks for that URL, as it's more official than the Middle East News Agency citation that we were using. I installed the attached proposed further patch.
Today the Economist reported that the Egyptian government hopes DST "will curb the country’s electricity usage and free up natural gas for export, since it generates about 60% of Egypt’s power. But Egyptians are rolling their eyes." See:
Time’s up—whatever the time is: Fiddling with Egypt’s clocks. The Economist. 2023-03-09. https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/03/09/fiddling-with-eg...
On 2023-03-10 00:13, Almaz Mingaleev wrote:
Will you wait for the draft to become final Unfortunately I don't know the legislative process in Egypt, so I don't know what the status of this time change is. Is it formally approved? If not, what steps need to be taken before the change becomes law in Egypt?
(especially given their 2 recent attempts to introduce DST)
Yes, that's partly why I haven't yet cut a new tzdb release. I don't want to wait too long, though.
On 2023-03-10 14:54, Paul Eggert via tz wrote:
On 2023-03-10 00:13, Almaz Mingaleev wrote:
Will you wait for the draft to become final Unfortunately I don't know the legislative process in Egypt, so I don't know what the status of this time change is. Is it formally approved? If not, what steps need to be taken before the change becomes law in Egypt?
(especially given their 2 recent attempts to introduce DST)
Yes, that's partly why I haven't yet cut a new tzdb release. I don't want to wait too long, though.
If you recall the previous fiasco when it was cancelled at the last minute: https://codeofmatt.com/time-zone-chaos-inevitable-in-egypt/ Parliament disagreed with the PM and Cabinet that DST was needed, so voted against passing the law! The current situation appears to be better, but review and debate of even bills with agreement can take weeks. Found a site with info: https://www.idsc.gov.eg/Newsletter/List - click View All - Click issue for "Thu. 02 Mar., 2023" - https://idsc.gov.eg/Upload/DocumentLibrary/Attachment_A/8241/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8... Translate: https://idsc-gov-eg.translate.goog/Upload/DocumentLibrary/Attachment_A/8241/... Find in page "daylight savings time" for other discussion 30-40% down. [It appears many gov.eg. links work only within Egypt see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Egypt#External_links explains why my attempts to view pages fail, so someone local will have to send us a copy of the law, or better a translation of a copy! Many archive.org English links stop in 2016, Arabic at the end of 2020.] -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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