Chile will keep UTC -3 all year round indefinitely
Although there is no formal decree yet, today the Ministry of Energy announced that Chile will drop DST, will keep "summer time" (UTC -3 / UTC -5) all year round, and will drop the Easter Island timezone (so all the Chilean land will be on a single time zone) Sources: - http://www.soychile.cl/Santiago/Sociedad/2015/01/28/301742/El-horario-de-ver... "El ministro de Energía, Máximo Pacheco, anunció la suspensión del cambio de horario, por lo que durante todo el año regirá el horario de verano. "El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile Continental e Insular", dijo el secretario de Estado, enfatizando "que esta medida va a ayudar a mejorar la calidad de vida de los chilenos y a ser un mejor uso de la energía"." (The ministry of Energy, Máximo Pacheco, announced the suspension of daylight saving time; so 'summer time' will rule all year round "The Government has decided to keep indefinitely the same time for Chile Continental and Easter island", pointing that "this measure will help to improve the quality of life for Chileans and use energy in a better way") - http://www.24horas.cl/nacional/ministro-de-energia-se-suspende-el-cambio-de-... - http://www.t13.cl/noticia/actualidad/nacional/gobierno-suprime-cambio-de-hor... I'll share the decree as soon is published on our Diario Oficial (law gacette) -- Juan Correa Poblete PS Labs (http://www.pslabs.cl)
When I looked at the first source, the text had changed. Now it says, "'El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile cntinental e insular', dijo el secretario de Estado. De esta manera, la zona horaria permanente será GMT-3 en el continente y de GMT-5 en territorio insular." The second sentence translates, "In this way, the permanent time zone will be GMT-3 on the continent and GMT-5 in the insular territory." The change probably represents a clarification. The phrase "horario único" could refer to the contrast between the island areas and the continent, but it could equally well refer to the contrast between the use and the non-use of daylight saving time. I think it's the latter. Gwillim Law On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Juan Correa <pottersys@gmail.com> wrote:
- http://www.soychile.cl/Santiago/Sociedad/2015/01/28/301742/El-horario-de-ver...
"El ministro de Energía, Máximo Pacheco, anunció la suspensión del cambio de horario, por lo que durante todo el año regirá el horario de verano.
"El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile Continental e Insular", dijo el secretario de Estado, enfatizando "que esta medida va a ayudar a mejorar la calidad de vida de los chilenos y a ser un mejor uso de la energía"."
You are right: 24Horas.cl wrote the timezones for Chile would be unified at the time I wrote the message The press release has been just published on the Ministry website ( http://www.minenergia.cl/ministerio/noticias/generales/ministerio-de-energia...), and it clarifies the following points: - Chile will drop DST indefinitely - There will be 2 timezones: America/Santiago on UTC -3, and Pacific/Easter on UTC -5 As I pointed before, there's no decree published yet; but probably this measure will be enforced from this year 2015-01-28 13:07 GMT-03:00 Gwillim Law <gwillim@gmail.com>:
When I looked at the first source, the text had changed. Now it says, "'El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile cntinental e insular', dijo el secretario de Estado. De esta manera, la zona horaria permanente será GMT-3 en el continente y de GMT-5 en territorio insular." The second sentence translates, "In this way, the permanent time zone will be GMT-3 on the continent and GMT-5 in the insular territory."
The change probably represents a clarification. The phrase "horario único" could refer to the contrast between the island areas and the continent, but it could equally well refer to the contrast between the use and the non-use of daylight saving time. I think it's the latter.
Gwillim Law
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Juan Correa <pottersys@gmail.com> wrote:
- http://www.soychile.cl/Santiago/Sociedad/2015/01/28/301742/El-horario-de-ver...
"El ministro de Energía, Máximo Pacheco, anunció la suspensión del cambio de horario, por lo que durante todo el año regirá el horario de verano.
"El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile Continental e Insular", dijo el secretario de Estado, enfatizando "que esta medida va a ayudar a mejorar la calidad de vida de los chilenos y a ser un mejor uso de la energía"."
-- Juan Correa Poblete PS Labs (http://www.pslabs.cl)
Proposed patch for Chile attached. Tim Parenti On 28 Jan 2015 11:35, Juan Correa wrote:
You are right: 24Horas.cl wrote the timezones for Chile would be unified at the time I wrote the message
The press release has been just published on the Ministry website (http://www.minenergia.cl/ministerio/noticias/generales/ministerio-de-energia...), and it clarifies the following points:
- Chile will drop DST indefinitely - There will be 2 timezones: America/Santiago on UTC -3, and Pacific/Easter on UTC -5
As I pointed before, there's no decree published yet; but probably this measure will be enforced from this year
2015-01-28 13:07 GMT-03:00 Gwillim Law <gwillim@gmail.com <mailto:gwillim@gmail.com>>:
When I looked at the first source, the text had changed. Now it says, "'El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile cntinental e insular', dijo el secretario de Estado. De esta manera, la zona horaria permanente será GMT-3 en el continente y de GMT-5 en territorio insular." The second sentence translates, "In this way, the permanent time zone will be GMT-3 on the continent and GMT-5 in the insular territory."
The change probably represents a clarification. The phrase "horario único" could refer to the contrast between the island areas and the continent, but it could equally well refer to the contrast between the use and the non-use of daylight saving time. I think it's the latter.
Gwillim Law
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Juan Correa <pottersys@gmail.com <mailto:pottersys@gmail.com>> wrote:
- http://www.soychile.cl/Santiago/Sociedad/2015/01/28/301742/El-horario-de-ver...
"El ministro de Energía, Máximo Pacheco, anunció la suspensión del cambio de horario, por lo que durante todo el año regirá el horario de verano.
"El Gobierno ha decidido mantener en forma indefinida un horario único en Chile Continental e Insular", dijo el secretario de Estado, enfatizando "que esta medida va a ayudar a mejorar la calidad de vida de los chilenos y a ser un mejor uso de la energía"."
-- Juan Correa Poblete PS Labs (http://www.pslabs.cl)
Thanks for the heads-up. Attached is a proposed patch to deal with this. I realize that the decree isn't official yet, but Chile's April change appears to be more likely than not, and we can always issue a new tz release if it turns out that we guessed wrong. I would like to release a new tz version by tomorrow, because of the Quintana Roo situation.
Thanks for catching Antarctica/Palmer; looks good. -- Tim Parenti On 28 January 2015 at 13:57, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. Attached is a proposed patch to deal with this. I realize that the decree isn't official yet, but Chile's April change appears to be more likely than not, and we can always issue a new tz release if it turns out that we guessed wrong.
I would like to release a new tz version by tomorrow, because of the Quintana Roo situation.
If I understand correctly, the patch translates as UTC -4 being the no-DST timezone for Chile until 25 April 2015; right?. If so, the patch it's OK; as long as it's possible to change the start date for this (in case the decrees changes the definition of 'Hora Oficial' instead of just derogating DST) On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. Attached is a proposed patch to deal with this. I realize that the decree isn't official yet, but Chile's April change appears to be more likely than not, and we can always issue a new tz release if it turns out that we guessed wrong.
I would like to release a new tz version by tomorrow, because of the Quintana Roo situation.
-- Juan Correa Poblete PS Labs (http://www.pslabs.cl) +56-9-99193873
On 01/28/2015 11:29 AM, Juan Correa wrote:
If I understand correctly, the patch translates as UTC -4 being the no-DST timezone for Chile until 25 April 2015; right?.
If so, the patch it's OK
Yes, that's right. If Chile intends to stay on DST permanently, the usual practice is for the tz database to model that as the new standard time, effective when the rules change.
as long as it's possible to change the start date for this (in case the decrees changes the definition of 'Hora Oficial' instead of just derogating DST)
Yes, we can do that as more information comes in. Presumably this won't affect UTC offset, it's only an issue of the English-language alphabetic abbreviation and the tm_isdst flag.
On 28 January 2015 at 14:29, Juan Correa <pottersys@gmail.com> wrote:
If I understand correctly, the patch translates as UTC -4 being the no-DST timezone for Chile until 25 April 2015; right?.
Correct; this is how we typically model changes like this where a country "observes DST year-round".
If so, the patch it's OK; as long as it's possible to change the start date for this (in case the decrees changes the definition of 'Hora Oficial' instead of just derogating DST)
That would be as simple as issuing a new patch, if it is warranted. Keep us posted. -- Tim Parenti
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