Re: [tz] Country name change from Turkey to Turkiye
On 2022-11-17 23:09, Bin Li via tz wrote:
Do you have any plans to change Turkey's name? Because it's the official name now. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-name-t... <https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-name-t...>
One of the stupider ISO decisions, as English supports no accents, except in loanwords, and they are just ignored, except possibly in academic publishing. I think it is time native English language speakers push back against and ignore decisions made by international committees of non-native English language speakers, to try and change what native English language speakers use to what the foreign language uses in Latin alphabet transliterations, just as the other 100+ countries who have no "official" transliteration do. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
On 2022-11-19 03:14:01 (+0800), Brian Inglis via tz wrote:
On 2022-11-17 23:09, Bin Li via tz wrote:
Do you have any plans to change Turkey's name? Because it's the official name now. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-name-t... <https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-name-t...>
One of the stupider ISO decisions, as English supports no accents, except in loanwords, and they are just ignored, except possibly in academic publishing.
English would not be English if it weren't for its liberal (promiscuous even) adoption of loanwords from around the world. There is ample precedent in ISO 3166 for all manner of what you call accents: Åland and Curaçao come to mind.
I think it is time native English language speakers push back against and ignore decisions made by international committees of non-native English language speakers, to try and change what native English language speakers use to what the foreign language uses in Latin alphabet transliterations, just as the other 100+ countries who have no "official" transliteration do.
I think you may be suffering from a severe underappreciation of the number of native English language speakers in the world. Most of the more than fifty countries, regions and territories where English is spoken natively seem to cope just fine with more than 26 letters and any number of diacritics. It's 2022. It's time to stop clinging to ASCII. We can handle bits in groups of up to 32 without too much of a struggle on most contemporary computers. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises
Philip Paeps wrote in <A799AAE0-6F7A-4877-9C98-01C70A208137@trouble.is>: |On 2022-11-19 03:14:01 (+0800), Brian Inglis via tz wrote: |> On 2022-11-17 23:09, Bin Li via tz wrote: |>> Do you have any plans to change Turkey's name? Because it's the |>> official name now. |>> https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-na\ |>> me-to-turkiye |> <https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102841197/turkey-changes-its-official-n\ |> ame-to-turkiye> |> |> One of the stupider ISO decisions, as English supports no accents, |> except in loanwords, and they are just ignored, except possibly in |> academic publishing. | |English would not be English if it weren't for its liberal (promiscuous |even) adoption of loanwords from around the world. There is ample |precedent in ISO 3166 for all manner of what you call accents: Åland |and Curaçao come to mind. | |> I think it is time native English language speakers push back against |> and ignore decisions made by international committees of non-native |> English language speakers, to try and change what native English |> language speakers use to what the foreign language uses in Latin |> alphabet transliterations, just as the other 100+ countries who have |> no "official" transliteration do. | |I think you may be suffering from a severe underappreciation of the |number of native English language speakers in the world. Most of the |more than fifty countries, regions and territories where English is |spoken natively seem to cope just fine with more than 26 letters and any |number of diacritics. | |It's 2022. It's time to stop clinging to ASCII. We can handle bits in |groups of up to 32 without too much of a struggle on most contemporary |computers. That is the right time to propose UN/Locode entries as valid IANA TZ DB citizens. All the world in groups of 5 ASCII letters, the first two of which being the ISO 3166 country code. This thing will come, as trade remains. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
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