A user (Leonardo Chaim) reported that Argentina will adopt DST, and I have found more details on Argentina's presidential web site, as well as on many news sites. Argentina will advance clocks by one hour on 2007-12-30 00:00 to (01:00) and turn them back again on 2008-03-16 00:00 (to 23:00). It appears that all of the country (all Zone-entries) are affected. The official news report about it: (Spanish) http://www.casarosada.gov.ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1509&... which has a link to the "Comunicado"/official notice: http://www.casarosada.gov.ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1510 translated: "The measurement will prevail in all the national territory as of the 00:00 hour of Sunday 30 of December of the present year, until the 00:00 hour of Sunday 16 of March of 2008, in that the clocks will have to retard one hour as a result of the application of the winter schedule. " News reports like http://www.lanacion.com.ar/opinion/nota.asp?nota_id=973037 indicate that Argentina will use DST next year as well, from October to March, although exact rules are not given. Best regards, Steffen / timeanddate.com
As per the "Comunicado": "se envió al Congreso Nacional un proyecto de ley, que deberá aprobarse en los próximos días." The law proposal was sent to the Congress and should be approved in the following days. So it is not law yet, but it probably would be. I searched a little but I couldn't find the proposal on either of Argentina's Congress Chambers.
Alex Mayorga Adame <alex.mayorga <at> gmail.com> writes:
As per the "Comunicado":
"se envió al Congreso Nacional un proyecto de ley, que deberá aprobarse en
los
próximos días."
The law proposal was sent to the Congress and should be approved in the following days.
So it is not law yet, but it probably would be. I searched a little but I couldn't find the proposal on either of Argentina's Congress Chambers.
The law is being discussed right now on the Senate (video broadcast here mms://200.47.131.1/senadores ) The text of the proposed law can be found here http://www.senado.gov.ar/web/proyectos/verExpe.php?origen=PE&tipo=PL&numexp=... It says that at 00:00 (localtime) of 2007-12-30 Argentina shifts to GMT-02 and at 00:00 (localtime) of 2008-03-16 returns to GMT-03. For next years the Executive power will decide when the zone shift will occur -- Daniel Mario Vega
Thanks for the heads-up. For lack of better info I'll propose a patch soon that will guess that the future rules are from the 1st Sunday in October to the 3rd Sunday in March, like this: Rule Arg 2007 only - Dec 30 0:00 1:00 S Rule Arg 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Arg 2008 max - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 S Like Brazil, this is just a guess, it's more likely than their not having daylight-saving at all (until the government changes again....). The Buenos Aires Herald editorialized today, in <http://www.buenosairesherald.com/editorial/editorial_english.jsp?idContent=4...>: "The most striking element in the new package is the return of daylight saving time - a move which in the past has done very much more to cause problems than to offer magic solutions but which is certainly worth trying." The editorial also said that the measure needs to be legislated by Congress next week. A nice Christmas present for everybody concerned, I'll bet.
Paul Eggert escribió el 22/12/07 23:06:
Thanks for the heads-up. For lack of better info I'll propose a patch soon that will guess that the future rules are from the 1st Sunday in October to the 3rd Sunday in March, like this:
Rule Arg 2007 only - Dec 30 0:00 1:00 S Rule Arg 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Arg 2008 max - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 S
Like Brazil, this is just a guess, it's more likely than their not having daylight-saving at all (until the government changes again....).
The Buenos Aires Herald editorialized today, in <http://www.buenosairesherald.com/editorial/editorial_english.jsp?idContent=4...>:
"The most striking element in the new package is the return of daylight saving time - a move which in the past has done very much more to cause problems than to offer magic solutions but which is certainly worth trying."
The editorial also said that the measure needs to be legislated by Congress next week. A nice Christmas present for everybody concerned, I'll bet.
The proposal is to enter the Parliament next Wednesday 26th and given that the governmen has plain majority in both chambers, it's actually expected to be approved and published by Friday 28th (at a usually unheard of speed for the Congress). I think it's OK to publish the patch... I'll try to keep an eye on the development of the proposal in Congress and report back here. Assuming the Law actually passes, for what I read in the press (I also couldn't find the actual proposal), the rules starting October 2008 will probably need to change since the Law allows the Government to set the date of starting and ending DST every year... maybe we could actually start a gambling business regarding Argentina's DST dates (it can get more interesting when Provinces start setting their own rules, as happened last time). Regards. -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby@baby.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Real programmers use: cat > a.out -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
Well, so far, the Cámara de Senadores of the Congress started the treatment of the Law proposal a little after 4PM local time (7PM UTC)... the President expects for it to be approved there and delivered to the Cámara de Diputados, this same evening so it could be completely approved tonight or tomorrow (that'd probably be a parliamentary record). http://www.lanacion.com.ar/politica/nota.asp?nota_id=973996 http://www.clarin.com/diario/2007/12/26/um/m-01571929.htm Will keep you posted... -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby@baby.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Outlook: A program designed to diseminate computer viruses. It can do e-mail too. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
The Senate already passed the project... in the next couple of hours it is supposed to pass the House. http://www.lanacion.com.ar/politica/nota.asp?nota_id=973996 I'll be off-line until late at night, but will try to post when I go back home and tell you the news... -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby@baby.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
Paul, I attach a patch to southamerica that I think is right, but would like someone more experienced with tzdata to check the rules for me. What I try to express is: From Sun 2007-12-30 0:00 advance one hour (to GMT-02:00) until Sun 2008-03-16 0:00 Then, I'm betting the change will be from the first Sunday in October until the first Sunday on or after March 15th. Paul Eggert escribió el 12/22/2007 11:06 PM:
Thanks for the heads-up. For lack of better info I'll propose a patch soon that will guess that the future rules are from the 1st Sunday in October to the 3rd Sunday in March, like this:
Rule Arg 2007 only - Dec 30 0:00 1:00 S Rule Arg 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Arg 2008 max - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 S
-- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby@baby.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
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Steffen Thorsen