Re: [tz] Carving shapes
Also, how to determine borders for Zabaykalsky Krai From: Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:22 AM To: 'tz@iana.org' Subject: Carving shapes How to determine borders for these new zones? Two zones are added: Asia/Chita (split from Asia/Yakutsk, and also with two hours subtracted) and Asia/Srednekolymsk (split from Asia/Magadan, but with only one hour subtracted). thanks Jim Marvel
Jim, The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia. Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1 Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use. -- Tim Parenti On 16 October 2014 12:00, Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) <Jim.Marvel@honeywell.com> wrote:
Also, how to determine borders for Zabaykalsky Krai
*From:* Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:22 AM *To:* 'tz@iana.org' *Subject:* Carving shapes
How to determine borders for these new zones?
Two zones are added:
Asia/Chita (split from Asia/Yakutsk, and also with two hours subtracted) and
Asia/Srednekolymsk (split from Asia/Magadan, but with only one hour subtracted).
thanks
Jim Marvel
On 16/10/14 17:24, Tim Parenti wrote:
The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia.
Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1
Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=timezone But it still needs help from people to update when changes do happen. The political boundaries do already exist, so normally it's just a matter of modifying relations to update things. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk
I've come across this website that lists the administrative areas that fall in each of the time zones (in Russian). http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1820633.html Eric Michielli -----Original Message----- From: tz-bounces@iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces@iana.org] On Behalf Of Lester Caine Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:41 PM To: tz@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Carving shapes On 16/10/14 17:24, Tim Parenti wrote:
The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia.
Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1
Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=timezone But it still needs help from people to update when changes do happen. The political boundaries do already exist, so normally it's just a matter of modifying relations to update things. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk
Thanks, Eric. The list paragraphs seem to be very similar to the text from the Russian legislation I waded through a while back: http://asozd2.duma.gov.ru/main.nsf/%28Spravka%29?OpenAgent&RN=431985-6&02 via Alexander Krivenyshev in http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2014-July/021105.html I haven't checked to see that it matches, but I think we're pretty confident about the 2014 offsets. -- Tim Parenti On 16 October 2014 13:26, Eric M. Michielli <Eric.Michielli@accuweather.com> wrote:
I've come across this website that lists the administrative areas that fall in each of the time zones (in Russian).
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1820633.html
Eric Michielli
-----Original Message----- From: tz-bounces@iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces@iana.org] On Behalf Of Lester Caine Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:41 PM To: tz@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Carving shapes
On 16/10/14 17:24, Tim Parenti wrote:
The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia.
Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1
Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=timezone
But it still needs help from people to update when changes do happen. The political boundaries do already exist, so normally it's just a matter of modifying relations to update things.
-- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk
Tim, In the mean-time I found http://www.gadm.org/country which has stuff I am chewing on now. Thanks Jim From: Tim Parenti [mailto:tim@timtimeonline.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:25 PM To: Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) Cc: tz@iana.org; Eric Muller Subject: Re: [tz] Carving shapes Jim, The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia. Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1 Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use. -- Tim Parenti On 16 October 2014 12:00, Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) <Jim.Marvel@honeywell.com<mailto:Jim.Marvel@honeywell.com>> wrote: Also, how to determine borders for Zabaykalsky Krai From: Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:22 AM To: 'tz@iana.org<mailto:tz@iana.org>' Subject: Carving shapes How to determine borders for these new zones? Two zones are added: Asia/Chita (split from Asia/Yakutsk, and also with two hours subtracted) and Asia/Srednekolymsk (split from Asia/Magadan, but with only one hour subtracted). thanks Jim Marvel
Thanks for the link, Jim. I don't have a great shapefile viewer to view the shapefiles in http://biogeo.ucdavis.edu/data/gadm2/shp/RUS_adm.zip, but I downloaded the corresponding second-level Google Earth dataset at http://biogeo.ucdavis.edu/data/gadm2/kmz/RUS_adm2.kmz. Upon first glance, it seems to contain everything that's needed to represent the boundaries of Russia's zones, as tz knows them. -- Tim Parenti On 16 October 2014 13:33, Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) <Jim.Marvel@honeywell.com> wrote:
Tim,
In the mean-time I found
which has stuff I am chewing on now.
Thanks
Jim
*From:* Tim Parenti [mailto:tim@timtimeonline.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:25 PM *To:* Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) *Cc:* tz@iana.org; Eric Muller *Subject:* Re: [tz] Carving shapes
Jim,
The commentary in the relevant portions of the 'europe' file attempts to detail the scope of each zone, in terms of the political subdivisions of Russia.
Back in August, Blake Crosby and I had a brief discussion about how to find good geometries for these subdivisions, but we hadn't found much. https://github.com/blakecrosby/tz-map/issues/1
Eric Muller has created shapefiles in the past for some versions of tz data. On his http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/ page, he shares an "ingredients" file at http://efele.net/maps/tz/russia/tz_russia_ingredients.zip which may be of some use.
-- Tim Parenti
On 16 October 2014 12:00, Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) <Jim.Marvel@honeywell.com> wrote:
Also, how to determine borders for Zabaykalsky Krai
*From:* Marvel, Jim (CPCOE) *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:22 AM *To:* 'tz@iana.org' *Subject:* Carving shapes
How to determine borders for these new zones?
Two zones are added:
Asia/Chita (split from Asia/Yakutsk, and also with two hours subtracted) and
Asia/Srednekolymsk (split from Asia/Magadan, but with only one hour subtracted).
thanks
Jim Marvel
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