I see someone tried to address this last month but it kind of fell flat. The solution seems clear to me, as described here:
In ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/data/northamerica v8.54 dated 2009-05-17 (the current version), it says"
# US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # California, northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Idaho, Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the northern three-quarters of Idaho county), # most of Nevada, most of Oregon, and Washington
The first instance of Idaho in the county list (between Clearwater and Kootenai) should be removed since the list ends with "and the northern three-quarters of Idaho county". That is, only the northern 3/4 of the county, not the whole county, is included (assuming that is true).
The dividing line is actually the Salmon River, so I would change the paragraph to: # US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # California, northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the part of Idaho county lying north of the Salmon River), # most of Nevada, most of Oregon, and Washington If we wanted to give the same detail treatment to NV and OR: # US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # - California # - Washington # - Northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the part of Idaho county lying north of the Salmon River) # - Oregon (except for the northern 3/4 of Malheur County) # - Nevada (except for West Wendover) I attempted to send this to the contact address at the top of the table (tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov), which was delayed 3 days and then bounced*. Shouldn't the tables be corrected to show the contact info for this list? *Actually, it seems that elsie.nci.nih.gov doesn't have an MX record (any more), so mailers attempt to connect to elsie directly to send mail, but it isn't listening (or won't connect). -- Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+TZ_IANA@Earthlink.net>
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+TZ_IANA@earthlink.net> wrote:
I see someone tried to address this last month but it kind of fell flat.
I don't see the string "Idaho" at http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-April/thread.html nor http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-March/thread.html Can you show a source for your statement? -- Tobias Conradi Rheinsberger Str. 18 10115 Berlin Germany http://tobiasconradi.com/
On 2012-05-21 23:04, Alan Mintz wrote:
I see someone tried to address this last month but it kind of fell flat. The solution seems clear to me, as described here:
In ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/data/northamerica v8.54 dated 2009-05-17 (the current version), it says"
# US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # California, northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Idaho, Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the northern three-quarters of Idaho county), # most of Nevada, most of Oregon, and Washington
The first instance of Idaho in the county list (between Clearwater and Kootenai) should be removed since the list ends with "and the northern three-quarters of Idaho county". That is, only the northern 3/4 of the county, not the whole county, is included (assuming that is true).
The dividing line is actually the Salmon River, so I would change the paragraph to:
# US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # California, northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the part of Idaho county lying north of the Salmon River), # most of Nevada, most of Oregon, and Washington
If we wanted to give the same detail treatment to NV and OR:
# US Pacific time, represented by Los Angeles # # - California # - Washington # - Northern Idaho (Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, # Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone counties, # and the part of Idaho county lying north of the Salmon River) # - Oregon (except for the northern 3/4 of Malheur County) # - Nevada (except for West Wendover)
I guess we'd want to change the comment for Southern Idaho (America/Boise) as well, replacing "the southern quarter of Idaho county" with "the part of Idaho county lying south of the Salmon River".) Though looking at the map, the river meanders a bit so that some of the portion described above as lying south of the Salmon River is actually north of part of the river and south of another part of the same river! -- -=( Ian Abbott @ MEV Ltd. E-mail: <abbotti@mev.co.uk> )=- -=( Tel: +44 (0)161 477 1898 FAX: +44 (0)161 718 3587 )=-
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Ian Abbott <abbotti@mev.co.uk> wrote:
On 2012-05-21 23:04, Alan Mintz wrote:
Though looking at the map, the river meanders a bit so that some of the portion described above as lying south of the Salmon River is actually north of part of the river and south of another part of the same river!
North -> right bank South -> left bank -- Tobias Conradi Rheinsberger Str. 18 10115 Berlin Germany http://tobiasconradi.com/
On 2012-05-22 12:44, Tobias Conradi wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Ian Abbott<abbotti@mev.co.uk> wrote:
On 2012-05-21 23:04, Alan Mintz wrote:
Though looking at the map, the river meanders a bit so that some of the portion described above as lying south of the Salmon River is actually north of part of the river and south of another part of the same river!
North -> right bank South -> left bank
That's a good way to describe it, but perhaps needs the extra qualifier of facing downstream. -- -=( Ian Abbott @ MEV Ltd. E-mail: <abbotti@mev.co.uk> )=- -=( Tel: +44 (0)161 477 1898 FAX: +44 (0)161 718 3587 )=-
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