Decree on Brazilian Summer time
Hello. The official decree was finally issued and can be get at <https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>. However, it contains a great infelicity: it clearly states that summer time is to end at 2004/02/14 00:00. That would be, for the strict reader, at midnight from Friday to Saturday. I am affraid that they really mean midnight from Saturday to Sunday, which is consistent with previous editions of summer time. What are we to do? -- Pappires ... Qui habet aurem audiat quid Spiritus dicat ecclesiis.
At Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:07:07 -0300, Paulo Alexandre Pinto Pires <p@ppires.org> writes:
The official decree was finally issued and can be get at <https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>.
Thanks. I also found it at <http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>. Is the planalto.gov.br URL preferable for some reason?
However, it contains a great infelicity: it clearly states that summer time is to end at 2004/02/14 00:00. That would be, for the strict reader, at midnight from Friday to Saturday. I am affraid that they really mean midnight from Saturday to Sunday, which is consistent with previous editions of summer time.
I agree.
What are we to do?
Can you write to the office of the Presidency and ask them to clarify the situation? I don't know if they need to issue a new decree to fix the typo, or whether they can just "interpret" the existing the decree to mean what it's obviously supposed to mean. Either way, it'd be nice to have this clarified. For now, I'm inclined to leave the data largely alone, but add comments about the situation, as follows: --- southamerica 2003/09/22 21:29:32 2003.1.0.3 +++ southamerica 2003/09/26 07:06:08 2003.1.0.4 @@ -443,8 +443,12 @@ Rule Brazil 2001 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 # Decree 4,399 (2002-10-01) repeals DST in AL, CE, MA, PB, PE, PI, RN, SE. # <a href="http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2002/D4399.htm"></a> Rule Brazil 2002 only - Nov 3 0:00 1:00 S -# Press release <http://www.mme.gov.br/noticias/2003/setembro/18.09.2003.htm> -# repeals DST in BA, MT, TO. +# Decree 4,844 (2003-09-24) repeals DST in BA, MT, TO. +# <a href="http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2003/D4844.htm"></a> +# From Paul Eggert (2003-09-25): +# Decree 4,844 says that daylight savings ends on 2004-02-14 at 00:00. +# For now we'll assume that is a typo, and that 2004-02-15 was meant. +# Rule Brazil 2003 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S # The latest ruleset listed above says that the following states observe DST: # DF, ES, GO, MG, MS, PR, RJ, RS, SC, SP. @@ -493,7 +497,7 @@ Zone America/Recife -2:19:36 - LMT 1914 Zone America/Araguaina -3:12:48 - LMT 1914 -3:00 Brazil BR%sT 1990 Sep 17 -3:00 - BRT 1995 Sep 14 - -3:00 Brazil BR%sT 2003 Sep 18 + -3:00 Brazil BR%sT 2003 Sep 24 -3:00 - BRT # # Alagoas (AL), Sergipe (SE) @@ -511,7 +515,7 @@ Zone America/Maceio -2:22:52 - LMT 1914 # There are too many Salvadors elsewhere, so use America/Bahia instead # of America/Salvador. Zone America/Bahia -2:34:04 - LMT 1914 - -3:00 Brazil BR%sT 2003 Sep 18 + -3:00 Brazil BR%sT 2003 Sep 24 -3:00 - BRT # # Goias (GO), Distrito Federal (DF), Minas Gerais (MG), @@ -528,7 +532,7 @@ Zone America/Campo_Grande -3:38:28 - LMT # # Mato Grosso (MT) Zone America/Cuiaba -3:44:20 - LMT 1914 - -4:00 Brazil AM%sT 2003 Sep 18 + -4:00 Brazil AM%sT 2003 Sep 24 -4:00 - AMT # # west Para (PA), Rondonia (RO)
I just checked the URLs given, and they both say 00:00 on February 15. Probably someone has reported the error. ----- Original Message -----
<https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>. <http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>.
However, it contains a great infelicity: it clearly states that summer time is to end at 2004/02/14 00:00.
The pages now say: " Art. 1o A partir de zero hora do dia 19 de outubro de 2003, até zero hora do dia 15 de fevereiro de 2004, vigorará a hora de verão, em parte do território nacional, adiantada em sessenta minutos em relação à hora legal." (Article 1. Beginning at 0:00 on October 19, 2003, until 0:00 on February 15, 2004, summer time will be in force, in part of the national territory, advanced sixty minutes with respect to legal [standard] time.) Gwillim Law
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:45:20PM -0400, Gwillim Law wrote:
I just checked the URLs given, and they both say 00:00 on February 15. Probably someone has reported the error.
I reported it yesterday (2003/09/25), as soon as I saw it reference the 14th of February. The page was indeed changed today, and the Official Union Daily (Diário Oficial da União, the official periodic that publishes material from the Government) says the following in a footnote of the republish of the decree (see <http://www.in.gov.br/ jsp/busca/visualizacao/xml/visualiza_xml.jsp?xml=http://www.in.gov.br/ materias/xml/do/secao1/644253.xml&produto=11&nomxml=644253.xml>): "Republicado por ter saído com incorreção do original no DOU. de 25.9.2003, Seção 1, página 2." or "Republished for having been printed with incorrections, from DOU. of 25.9.2003, Section 1, page 2." Unfortinately, I was unable to find the original incorrect publication. I am quite certain that it wasn't corrected because of my warnings, though, as I haven't got reply to any of the messages I sent. :) So, now we have clear, documented and unambiguous information about this year's Brazilian summer time. At last! Regards.
----- Original Message -----
<https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>. <http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2003/D4844.htm>.
However, it contains a great infelicity: it clearly states that summer time is to end at 2004/02/14 00:00.
The pages now say:
" Art. 1o A partir de zero hora do dia 19 de outubro de 2003, até zero hora do dia 15 de fevereiro de 2004, vigorará a hora de verão, em parte do território nacional, adiantada em sessenta minutos em relação à hora legal."
(Article 1. Beginning at 0:00 on October 19, 2003, until 0:00 on February 15, 2004, summer time will be in force, in part of the national territory, advanced sixty minutes with respect to legal [standard] time.)
Gwillim Law
-- Pappires ... Qui habet aurem audiat quid Spiritus dicat ecclesiis.
At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:45:20 -0400, "Gwillim Law" <RLAW@nc.rr.com> writes:
I just checked the URLs given, and they both say 00:00 on February 15. Probably someone has reported the error.
Thanks for reporting that. Apparently the web page was corrected this morning. Here's another patch to 'southamerica' comments to reflect this. Sorry about the flurry of patches; I guess I jumped the gun a little bit on Brazil, in my eagerness to get the tz database updated as quickly as possible. --- southamerica 2003/09/26 07:06:08 2003.1.0.4 +++ southamerica 2003/09/26 19:45:03 2003.1.0.5 @@ -443,12 +443,8 @@ Rule Brazil 2001 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 # Decree 4,399 (2002-10-01) repeals DST in AL, CE, MA, PB, PE, PI, RN, SE. # <a href="http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2002/D4399.htm"></a> Rule Brazil 2002 only - Nov 3 0:00 1:00 S -# Decree 4,844 (2003-09-24) repeals DST in BA, MT, TO. +# Decree 4,844 (2003-09-24; corrected 2003-09-26) repeals DST in BA, MT, TO. # <a href="http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2003/D4844.htm"></a> -# From Paul Eggert (2003-09-25): -# Decree 4,844 says that daylight savings ends on 2004-02-14 at 00:00. -# For now we'll assume that is a typo, and that 2004-02-15 was meant. -# Rule Brazil 2003 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S # The latest ruleset listed above says that the following states observe DST: # DF, ES, GO, MG, MS, PR, RJ, RS, SC, SP.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 12:48:59PM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
At Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:45:20 -0400, "Gwillim Law" <RLAW@nc.rr.com> writes:
I just checked the URLs given, and they both say 00:00 on February 15. Probably someone has reported the error.
Thanks for reporting that. Apparently the web page was corrected this morning. Here's another patch to 'southamerica' comments to reflect this.
Sorry about the flurry of patches; I guess I jumped the gun a little bit on Brazil, in my eagerness to get the tz database updated as quickly as possible.
Feel free to blame me on that. However, tzdata those changes were mostly in comments. New rules and zones didn't change that much. Thank you for your work caused by this thread. I am the one to a- pologize for send a lot of information in many small pieces. Best regards, -- Pappires ... Qui habet aurem audiat quid Spiritus dicat ecclesiis.
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