Just a thought, Australian TV can be readily watched via youtube and other sites. A quick look found Australian Sky News clips referring to AEST for instance. And I think this might have been discussed, but I assume news and media orgs have guides on how to write time. Surely they'd be willing to provide the relevant portions of those guides? On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:43 AM, John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu> wrote:
Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote on Wed, 10 Apr 2013 at 22:53:38 -0700 in <51664FE2.8030309@cs.ucla.edu>:
Thanks for doing all that legwork, including the search surveys. I will look at it in the next few days; something like this needs a bit of time to review properly. I also hope that others can find the time to look over the survey results.
I just want to remind the list, I think we may have overemphasized the surveys. Sampling the Internet is not good data, and there is a massive effect from the deployment of the tz database that is nearly impossible to control for.
(That is, because today's tz database uses 'EST' and friends, many many web resources will choose to do so as well.)
And, also, Steve Jobs was not wrong when he observed (in less polite terms?) that users may not always have an accurate idea of what they actually want. A person's expectation of what is most convenient/best/fun/usable/desirable may not match up with reality, and it is very hard to engineer good studies to measure these things, even with a lot of time, money, and human subject research -- none of which we really have.
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