I've updated my site to reflect it according to all these emails. I even made a map. http://www.abdicate.net/WTZ/worldtime_start.aspx Thanks for all your good work; you really help me keep current. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Oscar van Vlijmen [mailto:ovv@hetnet.nl] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:29 AM To: TZ-list Subject: Re: Kazakhstan zones I found more concrete evidence: http://eng.gazeta.kz/art.asp?aid=47715 If I'm reading it right, the article says that the UTC+4 / UTC+6 division is the eastern border of the Aktobe province (Aktyubinskaya Oblast'). The article says amongst others: "... in the west of Kazakhstan there will be the Astana time plus 2 hours". I think "minus 2"? In my interpretation this means that the following provinces are on UTC+4: Zapadnyj Kazakhstan/Ural'skaya Oblast' Mangistauskaya Oblast' Aktyubinskaya Oblast' (Aqtöbe) Atyrauskaya Oblast'/Gur'yevskaya Oblast' And on UTC+6 the rest: Almatinskaya Oblast' Akmolinskaya Oblast'/Tselinogradskaya Oblast' Zhambylskaya Oblast' Karagandinskaya Oblast' Kustanayskaya Oblast' Kzyl-Ordinskaya Oblast' Yuzhnyj Kazakhstan/Chimkentskaya Oblast' Pavlodarskaya Oblast' Severnyj Kazakhstan Vostochnyj Kazakhstan Mentioned article also infers when the transition took place: at the moments of DST switch. Some provinces stayed on summertime UTC+6 (Kostanai and Kyzylorda), another province (Aktobe) didn't go to (the now abolished?) summertime and stayed on UTC+5. So, if I'm reading the last statements in the article correctly, they imply UTC+5 and UTC+6 time zones. In the beginning of the article however it is clearly stated that Kazakhstan "is situated in the fourth and fifth time zones in relation with Greenwich". HELP!! Oscar van Vlijmen 2005-05-13