was: [tz] proposed changes: past Altai/Tomsk time zone shifts On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au> wrote:
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 04:11:55 +0200 From: Tobias Conradi <tobias.conradi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAAGevbVsY5SEs=3NGyau7T_aLW+W0cV18tofP3d_aDfjTw1M0w@mail.gmail.com>
| Putting something into the wrong timezone is by definition having a | bug in the TIMEZONE database.
No, once again, it is not, or not in any way that is important. There was no claim of importance, the claim only was that there is a bug.
| > If the comments in the zone file are wrong, | > we should certainly fix them sometime, | Now you change your opinion?
No, not at all, we fix erroneous comments, but erroneous comments are not a bug, as they don't affect the results, Of course they do. If one selects timezone Asia/Baku based on a comment that this is the tz zone for Chicago then one would get false offsets and false transitions.
they're just a minor insignificant error. Not to me, and maybe not for the people trying to find the Chicago zone data.
Like any error, such things should get fixed, but like other irrelevant errors, fixing them isn't urgent. Not for me.
| Any prove that all the view at | http://stats.grok.se/en/201204/List_of_tz_database_time_zones | are from list members?
List members can do whatever they like, and some of the people on this list (and associated with this project) certainly do attempt to make maps of timezones in one way or another. That's all fine, but it is not this project. I didn't claim that.
Your claim was " ...comments .... have no real importance and are generally only ever even seen by the people on this list (no-one else is really very likely to read through all of that stuff -...)" You provide no proof that the views of the Wikipedia page in question came only from list members. In absence of this, I think your claim is false.
| >(no-one else is really very likely to | > read through all of that stuff - zic certainly doesn't care.) | I read the comments before I was a list member.
Sure, there are people who look at this stuff, but not very many compared with the number of people who use the real product of this project - which is the zone database. Can you tell a way of how a user determines the correct zone for a random location in Indiana, selecting between
America/Indiana/Indianapolis America/Indiana/Vincennes America/Indiana/Winamac America/Indiana/Marengo America/Indiana/Petersburg America/Indiana/Vevay America/Kentucky/Louisville America/New York without reading the comments? -- Tobias Conradi Rheinsberger Str. 18 10115 Berlin Germany http://tobiasconradi.com/