Date: Thu, 23 Jul 87 11:12:18 pdt From: scubed!ncr-sd!ncrcae!sauron!wescott Message-ID: <8707231812.AA04952@SCUBED.ARPA> [Keith: there has been a typo in your host name, so if you're not on elsie!tz you probably missed most of this discussion, I thought I'd fix it now...] And the matter gets worse You're not joking. There is a new extern long to go along with timezone called "altzone" which holds the value of the daylight saving time "timezone" offset. Its clear that they haven't realized yet that 2 zones isn't enough, nor are 3 letter zone names. Is there anyone from AT&T on this list, or who has good contacts inside AT&T, who might be able to dig out whoever it is that is actually working on this stuff for Sys V.n releases, so that they might be persuaded that continually adding grunge to TZ simply isn't a "good thing" and in any case will never get things right. There must be someone in there who can actually make some kind of decision on thingslike this, or at least, try to persuade the decision makers that the current direction is hopeless. The ctime(3c) man page also describes two new routines that allow user control of the formatting of the string as well as using non-english names (under the control of the env. var. LANGUAGE). I have no real objection to this, though I've never understood how much more control of formatting its possible to have than is provided with localtime() and printf()! kre