Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:31:14 -0700 From: Paul Eggert via tz <tz@iana.org> Message-ID: <56559a18-6bab-d340-67ca-80892dfcf55f@cs.ucla.edu> | The alternate version that has only the Samoa fix | should give you a clear path forward in the short term. Only if it is tz-latest on the IANA distribution site.
From a different message: | If the rule were "at least one Zone per political unit that has the legal | power to set its own rules", we'd have dozens more Zones than we do now, | Zones that would cause more trouble than they'd cure.
What trouble would that be? I fail to see it. And from an earlier message: | Another reason - more important to my mind - is that sticking with 2021a's | blueprint would mean that its equity problems would remain present in | whoever uses that blueprint. Whatever issues exist would remain for a while yes, but assuming they really exist, they've been there for some time now - it is not crucial that any fix be applied this week. Furtherm the solution you're adopting is the wrong one, you cannot answer people who claim to be disadvantaged by disadvantaging others - "sorry, we did it to you, but it really isn't just you, we're screwing this other group as well..." Not a rational answer. The correct fix is to be inclusive. To take an example from a different area which I suspect applies to you. I assume your department does not discriminate against women applicants, right? (Substitute any other sometimes disadvantaged group for "women" in this paragraph if you like). What would happen if one year there were simply no women applicants? Do you go out and kidnap a few, and force them to enrol, in the name of equity? I doubt it. I know, the solution, you refuse to enrol any non-women so that yu can show that you're not discriminating against women. That's fair and equitable, right? Perhaps but also insane. Here we don't even need to go add Angola, Niger, etc - unless someone from there supplies data and requests that it be included. Hypothetical discrimination is not discrimination, just noise. If there is a request to add a zone for one of those, then simply add it. All equitable and fair, and very very simple. And finally, the most recent suggestion: | OK, how about if I scale back the current round of link-merging, so that | it's on the scale of what we've done in previous releases? That would depend upon what "scale back" means. If it means "none of" that would be just fine. If it means "all currently proposed, except Oslo" then no, that will not do at all. Just release 2021a + Samoa (plus Jordan if you feel that's ready, that one is far less urgent) and everything else can wait. There can be another release in a month, or even a week or two, if we can find something we agree upon. kre