Re: Time Zones changes in Argentina

22 Jan 2002

      Well Alois... Is possible is me bad english...

The data of the Images of Naval Observatory of Buenos Aires are about the Region of Buenos Aires Zone and in the Data of CAMBIOS DE HORA EN LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA.doc you have all the time zones changes with regions, etc... of argentina, if you look, in this doc yes, argentina have very much changes in 1990, 1991 and a little in 1992...

The major error in english databases about argentina appear to be between 1974 to 1988, if you look elsie write:

Rule Arg 1974 only - Jan 23 0:00 1:00 S
Rule Arg 1974 only - May  1 0:00 0 -
Rule Arg 1974 1976 - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 S
Rule Arg 1975 1977 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00 0 -
Rule Arg 1985 only - Nov  2 0:00 1:00 S
Rule Arg 1986 only - Mar 14 0:00 0 -
Rule Arg 1986 1987 - Oct 25 0:00 1:00 S
Rule Arg 1987 only - Feb 13 0:00 0 -
Rule Arg 1988 only - Feb  7 0:00 0 -
Rule Arg 1988 only - Dec  1 0:00 1:00 S

And only one zone in this period, no diferrences between different zones in this period in argentina, and this is correct, in the data of argentina astrologers in this period not have differences between regions, all the country have only one zone in this period, but elsie data have very much changes (daylight savings changes in 1975, 1976, 1985, 1986, 1987), this changes not exists in the data of Naval Observatory of Buenos Aires and the data of official astrological sites in argentina (and shanks have, I beleive, the same errors, I believe the data of elsie in this period are the data of Shanks), naval observatory write:

If you look, in the CAMBIOS DE HORA EN LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA.doc and make comparasion with the data of naval observatory and the data of the links I send to you yesterday, all are in concordance - I not check totally, but I believe yes -, appear to be the

CAMBIOS DE HORA EN LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA.doc

Is a complete doc about all the time zones changes with different time zone regions in Argentina...

I not check totally totally, I am working in programation at this moment, but this is me info at this moment... Check the CAMBIOS DE HORA EN LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA.doc with the Data of Naval Observatory of Buenos Aires and the Data of the Links:

www.urania.com.ar
www.astrolcaba.com.ar
www.casaonce.com
www.gente-de-astrologia.com.ar
www.spicasc.net/horvera.html
www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/extension/efemerides
www.earg.gov.ar

But I believe the:

CAMBIOS DE HORA EN LA REPUBLICA ARGENTINA.doc

Have concordance - I not check totally - and Is a complete doc with all the info about Argentina changes and zones and regions...

I write also to elsie, but not answer... I send this email to elsie also...

Good day Alois...

Javier...

PD: And another time Alois, sorry, I study French in the School and me English is possible are a little confuse...

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alois Treindl 
  To: Javier Reinoso 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Time Zones changes in Argentina

  Dear Javier

  the Elsie database has differences for some provinces of Argentina
  in the years 1990 and 1991 and 1992. 

  Please look at the elsie data I have attached below. 

  You seem to claim that there were no differences.

  Who is right?

  I tend to believe that information which has finer nuances, not
  that which says 'everywhere the same'.

  Why should anyone ever
  have invented a claim that some province had a different rule?

  It is more likely that some badly informed or careless person
  claims 'everything the same' because they make no effort to find the
  truth.

  Do you understand this point?

  Regards

  || Alois Treindl,  Astrodienst AG,  mailto:alois@astro.com
  || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland     
  || Free astrological charts at      http://www.astro.com/
  || SWISS EPHEMERIS Free Edition at   http://www.astro.com/swisseph/

  -------------- from Elsie ---------

  #
  # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL]
  #
  # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF), Santa Cruz (SC),
  # Tierra del Fuego, Antartida e Islas del Atlantico Sur (TF)
  Zone America/Buenos_Aires -3:53:48 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May    # Cordoba Mean Time
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART
  #
  # Santa Fe (SF), Entre Rios (ER), Corrientes (CN), Misiones (MN), Chaco (CC),
  # Formosa (FM), La Pampa (LP), Chubut (CH)
  Zone America/Rosario -4:02:40 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1991 Jul
  -3:00 - ART 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART
  #
  # Cordoba (CB), Santiago del Estero (SE), Salta (SA), Tucuman (TM), La Rioja (LR), San Juan (SJ), San Luis (SL),
  # Neuquen (NQ), Rio Negro (RN)
  Zone America/Cordoba -4:16:44 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1990 Jul
  -3:00 - ART 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART
  #
  # Jujuy (JY)
  Zone America/Jujuy -4:21:12 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1991 Mar  3
  -4:00 - WART 1991 Oct  6
  -4:00 1:00 WARST 1992 Mar 15
  -4:00 - WART 1992 Oct 18
  -3:00 - ART 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART
  #
  # Catamarca (CT)
  Zone America/Catamarca -4:23:08 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1990 Jul
  -3:00 - ART 1991 Jul
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1992 Jul
  -3:00 - ART 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART
  #
  # Mendoza (MZ)
  Zone America/Mendoza -4:35:16 - LMT 1894 Nov
  -4:16:44 - CMT 1920 May
  -4:00 - ART 1930 Dec
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 1969 Oct  5
  -3:00 Arg AR%sT 1991 Mar  3
  -4:00 - WART 1991 Oct 15
  -4:00 1:00 WARST 1992 Mar  1
  -4:00 - WART 1992 Oct 18
  -3:00 - ART 1999 Oct  3 0:00
  -4:00 Arg AR%sT 2000 Mar  3 0:00
  -3:00 - ART