Dear Paul Eggert, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Kyiv time zone is officially defined in the Crimea. In this regard, I have the following statements: 1. This is not a political issue; 2. All projects on the Internet, regardless of their scope, must comply with international law. 3. The territory of Crimea is not a disputed territory. Crimea is an integral part of Ukraine. All countries in the world, except Russia (which started the war in Ukraine), consider Crimea to be part of Ukraine. 4. Also pay attention to the provisions of the BCP 175. *"Changes to existing entries SHALL reflect the consensus on the ground in the region covered by that entry.". *Fake news on Russian sites - is not a consensus. Why is the Tzadat base contributing to Russian invaders and terrorists in conducting an information war against a civilized world? Also, we ask to answer the following questions: 1. On which basis were changes made in 2014? Based on the news on the site in the domain zone. Ru ??? 2. Will you change the time zone in Alaska, if after some time, Russian troops enter Alaska, take prisoner of official representatives of the US government and subsequently publish on all Russian sites the news that the Magadan time zone is set in Alaska??? Sincerely, Andrii Nabok чт, 4 лип. 2019 о 10:36 <tz-request@iana.org> пише:
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:27:29 +0000 From: <Paul.Koning@dell.com> To: <tz@iana.org> Subject: Re: [tz] Simferopol switch near 2014-03-30 Message-ID: <43E8DF99-A7A4-4879-9555-5E5DEC7CEC31@dell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
On Jul 3, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Sergij Marchenko <makars@gmail.com> wrote:
You can continue to live according to the rules imposed by russian terrorists under the occupation regime of Putin Huylo.
It's been explained many times already that the TZ project is a technical one, not a political one, and the issue you raise is out of scope.
Since you persist in bringing it up in spite of being corrected repeatedly, it may be time to consider your mail to be spam and filter it accordingly.
paul
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:33:36 -0400 From: Tim Parenti <tim@timtimeonline.com> To: Michael H Deckers <michael.h.deckers@googlemail.com> Cc: Time Zone Mailing List <tz@iana.org> Subject: Re: [tz] Simferopol switch near 2014-03-30 Message-ID: < CAFpi07wuB0+X230MukZJGmVwFS2f8PBo5Fcua8CMaB-y+s4PJw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 04:43, Michael H Deckers via tz <tz@iana.org> wrote:
tzdb currently has the switch in Simferopol from 2014-03-30T02:00 to 04:00, following the announcement in [https://vz.ru/news/2014/3/17/677464.html] from 2014-03-17.
But the clocks of the main station shown in the video at [https://www.rt.com/news/crimea-clocks-moscow-time-173/] advance from 22:00 to 00:00. If this is not a fake, the switch happened 4 hours earlier.
This apparent discrepancy in reporting was discussed contemporaneously on-list and is already noted in commentary. https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2014-March/020814.html https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2014-March/020815.html
Specifically:
# Simferopol and Sevastopol reportedly changed their central town clocks
# late the previous day, but this appears to have been ceremonial # and the discrepancies are small enough to not worry about.
As it so happens, the RT article you linked confirms that particular perspective ? that the 22:00 transition was merely "ceremonial" and that the 02:00 transition was official ? more clearly than we had identified at the time. Quoting the article:
?the hands of the main railway station clock in the city of Simferopol
jumped from 10 pm to 12 am on Saturday. [?] The ceremony follows the region?s formal joining the Russian Federation on March 21. Other Crimeans, apart from Simferopol, the region?s capital, were expected to switch their clocks at 2:00 am on Sunday, AFP reported.
It appears India's *Business Standard* also contemporaneously reported the same, at
https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/crimea-to-set-clocks-t... :
?a symbolic ceremony will be held to move the clocks forward at the railway
station in the main city of Simferopol. The Black Sea peninsula's prime minister Sergei Aksyonov will oversee the switch at 10pm (midnight Moscow, 2000 GMT). Europeans and ordinary Crimeans make the daylight savings time switch at 2am tomorrow.
Since the zone is meant to represent the region as a whole, and not necessarily one or two clocks in the town squares in the representative city, this is why we settled on 2014-03-30 02:00 for the transition.
-- Tim Parenti