Hi, I'm trying to get the .lz file and the link in git ( https://github.com/eggert/tz/tree/2016g) is ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzdb-latest.tar.lz But I browsed in there (ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz <ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzdb-latest.tar.lz>) and there seems to be no .lz file. Vic Kovacs On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:57 AM, tz-request@iana.org < tz.kovacsbv.30ca297cb3.tz-request#iana.org@ob.0sg.net> wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:24:51 -0700 From: Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmit@apple.com> To: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> Cc: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org> Subject: Re: [tz] [PROPOSED PATCH 2/2] Use lz format for new tarball Message-ID: <7DCA4197-C9B9-4F2E-9594-A31F33C5398C@apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
As far as I can tell, lzip is only used on Linux. There are no tools that ship with macOS or Windows (out of the box) that can decode it.
Adopting lzip as the primary format at this point seems like a statement that only Linux matters.
Debbie
On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org> wrote:
Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmit@apple.com> writes:
Maybe we should wait until lzip is widely available before adopting it?
Meanwhile, bzip2 is already widely adopted, and is smaller than gzip.
My impression is that bzip2 is dying and offers no great advantages at this point. Those who are looking for the best compression are using either xz or lzip. Those who care primarily about backward compatibility are using gzip. bzip2 is falling between those two stools: it's much newer than gzip and not as widely-supported, and it's larger (and I think slower to decompress although I could be wrong) than either xz or lzip.
I would not introduce bzip2 into anything that wasn't already using it at this point.
I think the current plan is a good one: stick with gzip for the supported, stable distribution, add an experimental distribution that can play around with compression and contents, and worry later (possibly much later) about when the stable distribution might be worth changing. At some point, gzip will probably go the way of compress, but we're not there yet. (It will probably take longer than the replacement of compress with gzip took, since there aren't patent issues driving the matter the way that there were for compress.)
-- Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) < http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:42:46 -0400 From: Alexander Belopolsky <alexander.belopolsky@gmail.com> To: Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmit@apple.com> Cc: Time zone mailing list <tz@iana.org> Subject: Re: [tz] [PROPOSED PATCH 2/2] Use lz format for new tarball Message-ID: <CAP7h-xYroWJ0JEb_2y4wuKceb9jnKPS7LHdN0sP07yjkbm vd2A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmit@apple.com> wrote:
There are no tools that ship with macOS or Windows (out of the box) that can decode it.
Neither of those systems come with a compiler out of the box either. On MacOS, it takes less than 1.5 seconds to install lzip:
$ time brew install lzip ==> Downloading https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/lzip-1.18.el_capitan.bottle.tar.gz Already downloaded: /Users/a/Library/Caches/Homebrew/lzip-1.18.el_capitan.bottle.tar.gz ==> Pouring lzip-1.18.el_capitan.bottle.tar.gz ? /usr/local/Cellar/lzip/1.18: 9 files, 166.4K
real 0m1.124s user 0m0.646s sys 0m0.537s
If you have trouble unpacking .tar.lz files - just point your browser to
https://github.com/eggert/tz/tree/2016g
and get whatever individual files you need.