To paraphrase IT project choices: they can have timely releases or official releases - pick one! On 2013-03-04 06:38, richard_gombert@goodyear.com wrote:
All,
Believe me I appreciate all of the work done on this.
However, my appreciation of the work and effort does not change the legal ramifications. Nor does it lessen the attention by the plant manager regional directors, production VPs, the CEO and the board. I have tried to explain the process to them and illustrate that ultimate responsibility lies with the Chilean government, However they all get glassy eyed, when I start talking International standards.
My true frustration is with the Chilean Ministry of Energy and the Chilean government as a whole (I love the country and have enjoyed all of my trips there). I have expressed and requested that my company express our displeasure with how this process works.
Thanks,
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From: <Paul_Koning@dell.com> To: <wollman@csail.mit.edu>, Cc: tz@iana.org Date: 03/01/2013 02:43 PM Subject: Re: [tz] [PATCH] Updates for Chile 2013 Sent by: tz-bounces@iana.org
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On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote:
<<On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:37 -0500, Andrew Paprocki <andrew@ishiboo.com> said:
We have a production process based around IANA releases. This process can not depend on github snapshots. We need lead time to deploy a real IANA release to thousands of boxes in a safe manner. We can do testing using github, but that doesn't remove the need to get a regularly scheduled (as in "everyone knew about the Chile changes weeks ago") update at least a week in advance.
I think you and several other people on this list are being a bit too demanding of people who do this work without compensation in their spare time. If your process requires an "official" release, then you need to fix your process, because the official release process is not ordered around your scheduling demands.
The other point is that governments announce TZ changes with anywhere from a year or two lead time, to negative lead time. A day or two is quite common. So, realistically, timezone database changes, whether "official" or prereleases, will often appear after the fact. Such things are the fault of the respective governments, not of the TZ workers.
paul