Tim, FTR: You now put a private reply to a private email of yours to me on the list. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Timothy Arceri <T.Arceri@bom.gov.au> wrote:
From: tobias.conradi@gmail.com [mailto:tobias.conradi@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tobias Conradi
This is a vote to use AEST/AEDT, or switch completely to Internationalized time point unique abbreviations.
I have been very clear since my very first email that may main concern is with the daylight savings abbreviations.
Again switching completely to Internationalized time point unique abbreviations is outside the scope of the tz database. Again? Where did you say it is outside the scope of the tz database before?
Where is the scope defined to have EDT? Going for "out of scope" without citing policy looks like trying to conceal that fact that it is only outside your scope.
For the scope of changes that can be made to the tz database please read: http://www.iana.org/go/rfc6557
Scope of changes and scope of the database are two things, right?
No one is trying to conceal anything I'm simply following the procedures outlined in that document.
You seem to not care about anything outside Australia and deteriorating the database by introducing new meanings of D is not problem for you.
I can accuse you of trying to introduce a new meaning to Australians. Of course.
Please show me where it says that we must use the abbreviations used elsewhere in the database. That I cannot.
Your own table shows that the abbreviations letters can mean different things. D for %s never means anything else than 1:00 saving. HD and HS for %s always mean less than 1:00 saving and DD and DS always mean 2:00 saving.
So, you introduce a new meaning for D for %s.
AGAIN you are trying to enforce unique and standardised abbreviations, using D, DD, DS, HD, HS as has been done in the database for %s does NOT make the abbreviations unique.
AGAIN: You are confusing topics.
as I have said this would be great if the world as a whole decided to use such standards but there is no such thing currently,
There is a standard for %s
if I'm wrong please enlighten me. I can only present facts to show that you are wrong. Whether you are able to use these for enlightenment is outside my range of influence.
Again: "Changes to existing entries SHALL reflect the consensus on the ground in the region covered by that entry."
We are simply trying to get the daylight savings abbreviations changed to what is *actually* used in Australia. Macquarie Island in the IANA time zone database is AQ and not Australia.
Macquarie island is part of Australia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Island
In Wikipedia, not in the IANA time zone database. ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/data/zone.tab AQ -5430+15857 Antarctica/Macquarie Macquarie Island Station, Macquarie Island -- Tobias Conradi Rheinsberger Str. 18 10115 Berlin Germany http://tobiasconradi.com