Presentation from TTF meeting on 24 June 2013 on how At-Large Content is organised
I've uploaded the PDF that was shown on the TTF call last week. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Ideas+for+improving+the+organisa... This is what I have in mind on how to implement the TTF project on improving the organisation of At-Large content * list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organise/distribute content * for At-Large Working Groups - What tools are used for At-Large Working Groups - describe how the content is organised using these tools - note issues regarding At-Large Working Group Content - develop recommendations to alleviate issues noted And then repeat for RALO content and ALAC content. Any thoughts on this approach? If there is agreement on this approach, then we can continue to edit the document in this style. Perhaps persons can be penholders for the different sections The document is in a Google Document and I can share an editable link with persons willing to work on this. Dev Anand
I think the approach is reasonable, but I'm unsure about the questions that are being asked here. After a bit of thought (it's right after a long weekend for me <=) ), I realized that the question that concerns me the most is "describe hos the content is organized using these tools". Perhaps the question should be something along the lines of: "what sorts of content does each tool (tend to) produce?". This is along the lines of the observations that Lance and I have made over the last couple of sessions (please correct me if I'm wrong here, Lance). This is a first, very quick, swing at this. I hope it helps. My bigger hope, though, is that it generates some discussion here. Gordon On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:59 -0400, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
I've uploaded the PDF that was shown on the TTF call last week.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Ideas+for+improving+the+organisa...
This is what I have in mind on how to implement the TTF project on improving the organisation of At-Large content
* list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organise/distribute content
* for At-Large Working Groups - What tools are used for At-Large Working Groups - describe how the content is organised using these tools - note issues regarding At-Large Working Group Content - develop recommendations to alleviate issues noted
And then repeat for RALO content and ALAC content.
Any thoughts on this approach? If there is agreement on this approach, then we can continue to edit the document in this style. Perhaps persons can be penholders for the different sections
The document is in a Google Document and I can share an editable link with persons willing to work on this.
Dev Anand _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
Dev: I read this and really liked it. But something bothered me. The presentation on the page is quite good. And the comments are rather interesting. So that wasn't it. It suddenly occurred to me that there is a lot of discussion about the content and not much about just what the content is. Now, I know that it should be possible to derive that from identifying what tools are used, but that doesn't necessarily work, in my experience (it's too easy to use a screwdriver for a prybar). Once that is described, your approach appears to work for me. With that in mind, I think we can expand the very first item, “list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organize/distribute content”. At this point we can identify items of content and ask “how do we get these?”. I took a swing at this – very quickly – and came up with a list. This needs to be considered a VERY rough draft, though. FWIW, here it is: Types of content: Meeting Reports 1. transcripts (text) 2. minutes (text) 3. voice recordings (mp3?) 4. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos) 5. chat transcripts (text) 6. other (graphics, pictures, etc.) Meeting Notices/Invitations 1. Mail (Text) 2. Calendar entries 3. Link to Meeting Page 1. agenda (text) 2. invitees (text) Proposals 1. proposal body (text) 2. comments (text) Reports 1. report body (text) 2. comments (text) Position papers 1. body (text) 2. illustrations (graphics) Mailing Lists (links) Work Spaces 1. bodies of reports (text) 2. illustrations (graphics) 3. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos) The first question that arises is "who generates what?", the next is "with what?" and the rest of your approach follows. I think. Gordon On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:59 -0400, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
I've uploaded the PDF that was shown on the TTF call last week.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Ideas+for+improving+the+organisa...
This is what I have in mind on how to implement the TTF project on improving the organisation of At-Large content
* list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organise/distribute content
* for At-Large Working Groups - What tools are used for At-Large Working Groups - describe how the content is organised using these tools - note issues regarding At-Large Working Group Content - develop recommendations to alleviate issues noted
And then repeat for RALO content and ALAC content.
Any thoughts on this approach? If there is agreement on this approach, then we can continue to edit the document in this style. Perhaps persons can be penholders for the different sections
The document is in a Google Document and I can share an editable link with persons willing to work on this.
Dev Anand _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
Dear Dev and all, I think Gordon proposal is a good start to organize TTF presentation, but I think that we need focus in create a social way to gather all data produced by At-Large. Maybe do it by topics and not for WG, and also we´ll need to review how to simplify tools amount to make it more useful and user-friendly. Just like an idea, it can be a good thing put online a report or statement to gather people to wants to work in it and not the opposite. TBD Best Regards, JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Comunicador Social Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia Twitter: @JmanuRojas Unete a LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es ________________________________ De: Gordon Chillcott <gordontc@look.ca> Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> CC: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Enviado: Viernes, 5 de julio, 2013 4:49 P.M. Asunto: Re: [technology taskforce] Presentation from TTF meeting on 24 June 2013 on how At-Large Content is organised Dev: I read this and really liked it. But something bothered me. The presentation on the page is quite good. And the comments are rather interesting. So that wasn't it. It suddenly occurred to me that there is a lot of discussion about the content and not much about just what the content is. Now, I know that it should be possible to derive that from identifying what tools are used, but that doesn't necessarily work, in my experience (it's too easy to use a screwdriver for a prybar). Once that is described, your approach appears to work for me. With that in mind, I think we can expand the very first item, “list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organize/distribute content”. At this point we can identify items of content and ask “how do we get these?”. I took a swing at this – very quickly – and came up with a list. This needs to be considered a VERY rough draft, though. FWIW, here it is: Types of content: Meeting Reports 1. transcripts (text) 2. minutes (text) 3. voice recordings (mp3?) 4. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos) 5. chat transcripts (text) 6. other (graphics, pictures, etc.) Meeting Notices/Invitations 1. Mail (Text) 2. Calendar entries 3. Link to Meeting Page 1. agenda (text) 2. invitees (text) Proposals 1. proposal body (text) 2. comments (text) Reports 1. report body (text) 2. comments (text) Position papers 1. body (text) 2. illustrations (graphics) Mailing Lists (links) Work Spaces 1. bodies of reports (text) 2. illustrations (graphics) 3. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos) The first question that arises is "who generates what?", the next is "with what?" and the rest of your approach follows. I think. Gordon On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:59 -0400, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
I've uploaded the PDF that was shown on the TTF call last week.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Ideas+for+improving+the+organisa...
This is what I have in mind on how to implement the TTF project on improving the organisation of At-Large content
* list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organise/distribute content
* for At-Large Working Groups - What tools are used for At-Large Working Groups - describe how the content is organised using these tools - note issues regarding At-Large Working Group Content - develop recommendations to alleviate issues noted
And then repeat for RALO content and ALAC content.
Any thoughts on this approach? If there is agreement on this approach, then we can continue to edit the document in this style. Perhaps persons can be penholders for the different sections
The document is in a Google Document and I can share an editable link with persons willing to work on this.
Dev Anand _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
_______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
Thanks for this Gordon, I've uploaded a 2nd version which will be discussed on today's call https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/35524298/How+At-Large+Conte... Dev Anand On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Gordon Chillcott <gordontc@look.ca> wrote:
Dev:
I read this and really liked it. But something bothered me. The presentation on the page is quite good. And the comments are rather interesting. So that wasn't it.
It suddenly occurred to me that there is a lot of discussion about the content and not much about just what the content is. Now, I know that it should be possible to derive that from identifying what tools are used, but that doesn't necessarily work, in my experience (it's too easy to use a screwdriver for a prybar). Once that is described, your approach appears to work for me.
With that in mind, I think we can expand the very first item, “list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organize/distribute content”. At this point we can identify items of content and ask “how do we get these?”.
I took a swing at this – very quickly – and came up with a list. This needs to be considered a VERY rough draft, though. FWIW, here it is:
Types of content:
Meeting Reports 1. transcripts (text) 2. minutes (text) 3. voice recordings (mp3?) 4. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos) 5. chat transcripts (text) 6. other (graphics, pictures, etc.)
Meeting Notices/Invitations 1. Mail (Text) 2. Calendar entries 3. Link to Meeting Page 1. agenda (text) 2. invitees (text)
Proposals 1. proposal body (text) 2. comments (text)
Reports 1. report body (text) 2. comments (text)
Position papers 1. body (text) 2. illustrations (graphics)
Mailing Lists (links)
Work Spaces 1. bodies of reports (text) 2. illustrations (graphics) 3. presentations (graphics,slide-presentations,videos)
The first question that arises is "who generates what?", the next is "with what?" and the rest of your approach follows.
I think.
Gordon
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:59 -0400, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
I've uploaded the PDF that was shown on the TTF call last week.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Ideas+for+improving+the+organisa...
This is what I have in mind on how to implement the TTF project on improving the organisation of At-Large content
* list the tools used by At-Large to generate/organise/distribute content
* for At-Large Working Groups - What tools are used for At-Large Working Groups - describe how the content is organised using these tools - note issues regarding At-Large Working Group Content - develop recommendations to alleviate issues noted
And then repeat for RALO content and ALAC content.
Any thoughts on this approach? If there is agreement on this approach, then we can continue to edit the document in this style. Perhaps persons can be penholders for the different sections
The document is in a Google Document and I can share an editable link with persons willing to work on this.
Dev Anand _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
participants (3)
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Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Gordon Chillcott -
Juan Manuel Rojas