Transitioning ICANN's Remote Participation Platform to Zoom
just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform.
Dear Dev, thanks for reporting this. A while ago, when Adobe Connect was faced with security problems, ICANN briefly interrupted the use of Adobe Connect and replaced it with both the use of Webex and Zoom. The result was not particularly positive and the vast majority of people were happy to return to Adobe Connect, which is a lot more powerful than Webex and at least keeps some form of order to the order in which people put their hands up. Zoom has some serious shortfalls for meetings with a large number of people --- and it does not offer local dial up in many countries around the world. I am very surprised about this choice. How do you all rate Zoom vs. Adobe Connect? Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/04/2019 23:09, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p...
After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform.
Hi Olivier, I think I am indifferent about the choice of Zoom over Adobe Connect. I would use either one and Adobe Connect has improved greatly from a few years ago. Zoom has some pros and cons though I like it because of its ability to work well in low bandwidth situations. I do not like its chat feature though I think there is potential for it to be improved. Regarding the number of participants, I believe it is 100 (at least when I last used it to full capacity last year). Overall, I am looking forward to seeing how Zoom will work for us! Regards, Sarah On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 12:41 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Dev,
thanks for reporting this. A while ago, when Adobe Connect was faced with security problems, ICANN briefly interrupted the use of Adobe Connect and replaced it with both the use of Webex and Zoom. The result was not particularly positive and the vast majority of people were happy to return to Adobe Connect, which is a lot more powerful than Webex and at least keeps some form of order to the order in which people put their hands up. Zoom has some serious shortfalls for meetings with a large number of people --- and it does not offer local dial up in many countries around the world. I am very surprised about this choice.
How do you all rate Zoom vs. Adobe Connect?
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/04/2019 23:09, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p...
After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform.
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Dear Judith, the problem is that the SSAC is mostly people from developed countries. My biggest two concerns about Zoom are (a) the lack of ordering of hands up when people put their hand up and (b) the lack of chat history when you enter a zoom room: you cannot read the discussions that have already taken place, so it's hard to find out references that have already been put in the chat. Plus there appears to be less windows in Zoom than in Adobe Connect - but perhaps a more extensive use of sharing of documents & further "notes" windows could take care of that. Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/04/2019 23:59, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Olivier,
The ICANN Meetings team has been working with Zoom to correct those issues and I believe they have worked on them as they would not have made the switch without doing this work. In the blog Ashwin writes that the SSAC had been using zoom the entire time. We need to hear more about this from them and the TTF has been working closely with Sara Caplis from ICANN's IT team and with our Liaison Mark Seagal. We plan to have them on a next TTF call to talk about this switch and this will be a good opportunity to ask these questions to them and see what answers they can provide
Best,
Judith
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On 4/4/2019 12:41 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Dev,
thanks for reporting this. A while ago, when Adobe Connect was faced with security problems, ICANN briefly interrupted the use of Adobe Connect and replaced it with both the use of Webex and Zoom. The result was not particularly positive and the vast majority of people were happy to return to Adobe Connect, which is a lot more powerful than Webex and at least keeps some form of order to the order in which people put their hands up. Zoom has some serious shortfalls for meetings with a large number of people --- and it does not offer local dial up in many countries around the world. I am very surprised about this choice.
How do you all rate Zoom vs. Adobe Connect?
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/04/2019 23:09, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p...
After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform.
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Dear Olivier, Just confirming that the issue with regards to order of raised hands has now been resolved. We are working on the implementation of zoom on our At-Large calls. Thank you! Kind regards, Gisella From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Date: Wednesday, 3 April 2019 at 23:30 To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com>, Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [technology taskforce] Transitioning ICANN's Remote Participation Platform to Zoom Dear Judith, the problem is that the SSAC is mostly people from developed countries. My biggest two concerns about Zoom are (a) the lack of ordering of hands up when people put their hand up and (b) the lack of chat history when you enter a zoom room: you cannot read the discussions that have already taken place, so it's hard to find out references that have already been put in the chat. Plus there appears to be less windows in Zoom than in Adobe Connect - but perhaps a more extensive use of sharing of documents & further "notes" windows could take care of that. Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/04/2019 23:59, Judith Hellerstein wrote: HI Olivier, The ICANN Meetings team has been working with Zoom to correct those issues and I believe they have worked on them as they would not have made the switch without doing this work. In the blog Ashwin writes that the SSAC had been using zoom the entire time. We need to hear more about this from them and the TTF has been working closely with Sara Caplis from ICANN's IT team and with our Liaison Mark Seagal. We plan to have them on a next TTF call to talk about this switch and this will be a good opportunity to ask these questions to them and see what answers they can provide Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com [jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ [linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 4/4/2019 12:41 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote: Dear Dev, thanks for reporting this. A while ago, when Adobe Connect was faced with security problems, ICANN briefly interrupted the use of Adobe Connect and replaced it with both the use of Webex and Zoom. The result was not particularly positive and the vast majority of people were happy to return to Adobe Connect, which is a lot more powerful than Webex and at least keeps some form of order to the order in which people put their hands up. Zoom has some serious shortfalls for meetings with a large number of people --- and it does not offer local dial up in many countries around the world. I am very surprised about this choice. How do you all rate Zoom vs. Adobe Connect? Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/04/2019 23:09, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote: just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog...> After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform. _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf -- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html [gih.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gih.com_ocl.html&d=D...>
Thanks for following-up Gisella - that's good news and that's 50% of my concerns resolved. :-) Kindest regards, Olivier On 04/04/2019 00:40, Gisella Gruber wrote:
Dear Olivier,
Just confirming that the issue with regards to order of raised hands has now been resolved.
We are working on the implementation of zoom on our At-Large calls.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Gisella
*From: *ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Date: *Wednesday, 3 April 2019 at 23:30 *To: *Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com>, Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [technology taskforce] Transitioning ICANN's Remote Participation Platform to Zoom
Dear Judith,
the problem is that the SSAC is mostly people from developed countries. My biggest two concerns about Zoom are (a) the lack of ordering of hands up when people put their hand up and (b) the lack of chat history when you enter a zoom room: you cannot read the discussions that have already taken place, so it's hard to find out references that have already been put in the chat. Plus there appears to be less windows in Zoom than in Adobe Connect - but perhaps a more extensive use of sharing of documents & further "notes" windows could take care of that. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/04/2019 23:59, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Olivier,
The ICANN Meetings team has been working with Zoom to correct those issues and I believe they have worked on them as they would not have made the switch without doing this work. In the blog Ashwin writes that the SSAC had been using zoom the entire time. We need to hear more about this from them and the TTF has been working closely with Sara Caplis from ICANN's IT team and with our Liaison Mark Seagal. We plan to have them on a next TTF call to talk about this switch and this will be a good opportunity to ask these questions to them and see what answers they can provide
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________
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Hellerstein & Associates
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Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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On 4/4/2019 12:41 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
Dear Dev,
thanks for reporting this. A while ago, when Adobe Connect was faced with security problems, ICANN briefly interrupted the use of Adobe Connect and replaced it with both the use of Webex and Zoom. The result was not particularly positive and the vast majority of people were happy to return to Adobe Connect, which is a lot more powerful than Webex and at least keeps some form of order to the order in which people put their hands up. Zoom has some serious shortfalls for meetings with a large number of people --- and it does not offer local dial up in many countries around the world. I am very surprised about this choice.
How do you all rate Zoom vs. Adobe Connect?
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/04/2019 23:09, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
just as Adobe is starting to switch to HTML5 from Flash
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/transitioning-icann-s-remote-participation-p... [icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog...>
After careful consideration, ICANN org has decided to transition our official remote participation platform from Adobe Connect to Zoom. In January 2019, we entered into a contract with Zoom to license its product for widespread deployment. Plans are being executed now so that we can completely replace Adobe Connect & PGi by ICANN65 in Marrakech, Morocco. Our intent is to run ICANN65 using Zoom as our sole web conference platform.
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Judith Hellerstein -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
Sarah Kiden