Joanna, you have made the point - MS Teams works fine if you have a good ICT and a full license. Otherwise, it is challenging. Erich SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Professor (§ 122 UG 2002) UNIVIENNA; Principal Administrator (ret.), European Commission, Dr. Dr. Legal Informatics at Vienna University Board Chair: ARI Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik, Juridicum, Universität Wien Main Conference Chair: International Legal Informatics Symposium IRI§ - iris-conferences.eu President: Vienna Centre for Legal Informatics WZRI and Director of its sub-organisations: rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY, LII-Austria.org, CEILI.eu, ICANN-ALS.wzri.eu and neuerechtsschule.org (work in progress) Department for European, International and Comparative Law & Section for International Law, Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, room 546, 1010 Wien AT, Tel. +43 1 4277 35305 rechtsinformatik.univie.ac.at iris-conferences.eu wzri.eu rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY neuerechtsschule.org deicl.univie.ac.at Erich.Schweighofer@univie.ac.at; Erich.Schweighofer@wzri.eu; erichs@rechtsinformatik.ACADEMY; office@iris-conferences.eu Bitte um Beiträge / Call for Papers: IRI§26 Internationales Rechtsinformatik Symposion, 18.-21. Feburar 2026, Salzburg / or Wien (?), iris-conferences.eu ________________________________________ Von: Joanna Kulesza via At-Large <at-large@icann.org> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. April 2025 10:33:45 An: Jonathan Zuck Cc: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi; Technology Taskforce WG; At-Large Worldwide Betreff: [At-Large] Re: [External] Re: [technology taskforce] Re: Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams Hi Jonathan and all, Just wanted to chime in as a long-time Teams user with a full license provided by my employer. I find Teams to be reliable, versatile, and overall quite solid — but, as others have pointed out, it can be invasive and require a lot of data to ensure a solid connection. In my experience, connectivity through WhatsApp (or Skype) has often been more efficient. While Teams works perfectly on my end, I’ve hosted open online events for the ICANN community (including the INFERMAL LCH Master Class that some of the colleagues on this list joined) using the platform and received feedback about login issues. These seem to come down to three things: - You usually need an account to join; - Some institutions (ICANN .org included) block account creation or access depending on the device used (our volunteers might be suing their work devices to wish to join the conversations, so this might be an issue; - There are known interoperability issues, especially for non-Windows (Mac) users. So while I personally have no issues with Teams, I have seen that it’s not a one-size-fits-all solution for our community. As of 2025, my vote would go to Signal as a Skype alternative. On that note — will there be a vote? Or perhaps a dedicated meeting to decide? This has been a really interesting thread — I’ve learned a lot and would love to keep the conversation going. Thanks all, Joanna śr., 2 kwi 2025 o 18:28 Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <at-large@icann.org> napisał(a):
Do we have anyone on this group who regularly uses Teams? They have a community feature that might be useful but it's new to me.
-----Original Message----- From: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:26 AM To: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com; Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [External] [At-Large] Re: [technology taskforce] Re: Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams
+1 Jonathan , volunteers should not have to pay license fee, Slack could also be a good option, many companies use it for doing business.
Hadia
________________________________ From: Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <at-large@icann.org> Sent: 02 April 2025 18:08 To: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Cc: Technology Taskforce WG; At-Large Worldwide Subject: [External] [At-Large] Re: [technology taskforce] Re: Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams
Absolutely true. I don’t think there’s a world in which volunteers should have to pay a license fee. Jonathan
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One item to consider is cost. Are volunteers willing to pay an annual fee if a licensed tool is used? Will ICANN.org acquire an application with the secure, accessible, and diverse features we want in a community tool?
It has been indicated that IT staff are exploring a solution to replace Skype? The chosen tool must meet our needs and make conversations more efficient and trackable.
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 5:00 PM Jonathan Zuck via ttf <ttf@icann.org<mailto:ttf@icann.org>> wrote: I continue to be a fan of Loomio<https://www.loomio.com/> rather than SLACK but I’m not sure either is really a replacement for Skype. That’s more WhatsApp or something like Viber<https://www.viber.com/>.
From: Natálie Terčová via At-Large <at-large@icann.org<mailto:at-large@icann.org>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 11:43 AM To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [At-Large] Re: TheVerge : Microsoft is shutting down Skype in favor of Teams
Dear all,
Adding to this discussion, I have a good experience with Discord, as there can be many sub-servers and rooms for various WGs, RALOs,... visible for only those for whom they are relevant. It may be a good option to consider, as it is free and it would finally solve the issue of fragmented conversations across mailing lists/ skype/ whatsapp etc. There, all discussions can be happening on one, big server. Just food for thoughts, @staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>. In two big orgs I cooperate with, we eventually switched to Discord, and all has been great ever since.
Have a nice weekend. NT
pá 28. 2. 2025 v 15:21 odesílatel Dev Anand Teelucksingh via At-Large <at-large@icann.org<mailto:at-large@icann.org>> napsal: So, do we switch to Teams (and will it work for the At-Large Community?) Or another group chat solution ?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
"It’s the end of an era. Microsoft is shutting down Skype in May and replacing it with the free version of Microsoft Teams for consumers. Existing Skype users will be able to log in to the Microsoft Teams app and have their message history, group chats, and contacts all automatically available without having to create another account, or they can choose to export their data instead. Microsoft is also phasing out support for calling domestic or international numbers."
https://www.theverge.com/news/621353/microsoft-skype-shutting-down-retiremen...
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