Re: [lac-discuss-es] Bienvenido a la ICANN At-Large!

April 5, 2012

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 Asunto: Re: Bienvenido a la ICANN At-Large! 
 De: jam@jacquelinemorris.com

 José 
 Siento que estar en desacuerdo con usted, pero lo que Carlos escribió NO es cierto. 

 Las reglas son muy claras. Un ALS se convierte una ALS a través de un cierto 
 proceso. Este proceso termina con el voto de la ALAC. 
 Ese voto a favor de la organización convertirse en una licencia previa, y ese voto 
 SOLO es lo que es necesario contar con una organización convertirse en una ELA y 
 por lo tanto, parte de la estructura RALO. 
 Como tal, todos los ALS certificadas en la votación el 14 de marzo fueron, en 
 el cierre de la votación y el anuncio de los resultados de tales 
 voto, ALS, y dio la bienvenida como tal en el At-Large por el Presidente del 
 el ALAC. Yo estaba allí, vi que esto suceda. No puede haber controversia en cuanto a 
 ya se trate de ALS fueron, desde ese momento, y la participación activa 
 ALS en el sistema Ralo. 

 Así pues, dado que la Asamblea General comenzó después de que el voto, todos los ALS certificada por 
 ALAC, incluidos los certificados en el mismo día, fueron elegibles para 
 participar, y así lo hizo.

 Es extremadamente claro en la lectura de los documentos, como es el hecho de que el 
 Bienvenido de correo electrónico que desató toda esta discusión circular y 
 supuesto es un correo electrónico de bienvenida a la nueva esclerosis lateral amiotrófica, una cortesía, que 
 explica un poco sobre la AtLarge. No tiene nada que ver con el 
 proceso de certificación de una organización que por sí mismos o no. 

 Jacqueline A. Morris 
 La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicua, necesaria, invisible y 
 Gratis. (AfterChris Lehmann) 

 El Jue, 05 de abril 2012 a las 10:46 AM, JosFrancisco Arce 
<josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> escribiÃ³:
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It is true what Carlos Aguirre said about the previous notificatión and
publicity, but what happend in this particulary situation is that in Costa
Rica the President and Secretariat of LACRALO were ask for the regional
advice for ISOC T&T, and then ALAC voted for that. When ISOC T&T was aprove,
the presidnte of that organization ask me personally if it would be possible
that ISOC T&T can participate in the events in Costa Rica. I found no reason
to deny this request, ALAC desicion had already been taken,  and
representatives were there in the meeting. So notificatión and publicity was
taken because the ALAC meeting is public and everyone should have been
there.
Maybe was my mistake for not send an information email to the list adressing
this issue to formalize it.
Please let me know if someone have any doubt about this.
Kind Regards
Jose Arce.-
2012/4/5 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com>
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Jacqueline. The communication, more than to be a simple courtesy, is
important for a validity of act, because it  give notice to our end users in
the region, and All around the world,  of the ALS certification and give the
transparency needed and mandatory in our ICANN bylaws. After to notify the
ALS certification, and not receive it any objection, the ALS can participate
actively. Before that, the act of certification is unknown for the end users
and the transparency needed is not completed.
It is my point of view, and of course could be discussed. Carlos Dionisio
Aguirre
NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
former ALAC member by LACRALO
Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
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http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:53:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Welcome to ICANN At-Large!
From: jam@jacquelinemorris.com
To: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com
CC: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org; cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com
As I'm not a lawyer, maybe there's something I missed, but from what I
know as ALAC procedures, from sitting on both the Interim ALAC, as well as
ALAC and being Chair of both, the ALS is certified at the end of the ALAC
vote, and fully able to participate, and the welcome email is simply a
courtesy.
However, given that Cintra was NOT the ISOCTT rep at the GA, but rather, a
rep of an ALS certified since 2006, I think your point about her
participation in the GA being null and void fails based on this reason as
well.
My $0.02
Jacqueline
On Apr 4, 2012 11:57 PM, "carlos dionisio aguirre"
<carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Cintra. Im sharing with José the concerns about your participatíon in
LACRALO GA. All of this because as you  know as lawyer, the previous
 notificatión and publicity became valid the next act . So, in  this case
and due to lack of  communicatión of ALS certification, your participatíon
and votes made by tpu ón LACRALO GA are no válids , and desitions must be
revised.
We need give transparency and you as lawyer have the obligatíon to do the
correct things.
And i want to see who are responsible  for serious errors commíted.
Carlos Aguirre.
Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry®
-----Original Message-----
From: Cintra Sooknanan <cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:43:36
To: <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Welcome to ICANN At-Large!
Jose and Staff thank you for your welcome.
Jose I believe you raised this query during the first day of the general
assembly and it was dealt with then.
It is really for the ALAC representatives from LACRALO who had the
responsibility to vote on this ALS application or the secretariat or staff
to respond to you, but in the interest of time maybe I can clarify
that ISOC-TT was ratified as an ALS on 14 March, there was some delay (i'm
assuming because of other pressing matters) in staff sending this email.
Regards
Cintra
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:21 PM, <salgueiro.jo@gmail.com> wrote:
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 Subject: Re: Welcome to ICANN At-Large!
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 I do not understand. If today we are receiving the notification of
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 ----- Original Message -----
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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
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 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
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ICANN
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 At-Large Staff
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 Posted on: Wednesdays, April 4, 2012 05:52 pm
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 To: Cintra Sooknanan
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 CC: Carlton Samuels, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org, Dev Anand
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 Teelucksingh (Confluence), ICANN At-Large Staff;
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 lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Internal List, Olivier MJ
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 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Welcome to ICANN At-Large!
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 Dear Cintra Sooknanan:
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 ICANN's At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is pleased to inform You
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 (163) Trinidad and Tobago Internet Society Chapter Has Been certified
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 At-Large Structure (ALS). The ALAC Greatly appreciates your groups
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 Involving users in an individual interest in ICANN and looks forward to
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working
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 The purpose of ALS certification is to Recognize That your organization
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 meets the criteria to Involve necesario Individual Internet users at
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 Individual ITS support members' informed participation in ICANN Efforts
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 Affect end-users.
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 The ALAC is eager to Promote Productive working at your relationship
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 organization, other ALS, and the ALAC (ICANN and in general), and your
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input
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 on how we can make this a success would be Greatly appreciated.
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 We would like to offer tools to help Some initial organization keep
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 Identifying the names staff@atlarge.icann.org and email addresses of
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staff@atlarge.icann.org.
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 www.lacralo.org <http://www.lacralo.org>
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 We look forward to working with you and your organization's members to
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 The At-Large Advisory Committee
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