Estimados compañeros: hace unos días Beu Brendler de NARALO, envió un mail con una declaración advirtiendo a los consumidores sobre el tema de la pre-inscripción. Creo que es un tema que debería ser tratado en ALAC, conforme lo sugiere Beu en su email que reenvío mas abajo, anticipo que me parece de un gran valor esta manifestación que hacen los usuarios de Internet de Norte América, y que ALAC debería hacerse eco de esto. Saludos cordiales *Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>ICANN/LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" -Eduardo Galeano- * -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration Fecha: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:18:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) De: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Responder a: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Para: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues, The NARALO wants to make a statement warning consumers about the issue of pre-registration. We as a region have developed a text, as follows below. I'm writing to ask whether the ALAC would like to endorse this statement and pass it forward to the board. It also occurs to me that it would make an excellent press release in coordination with the appropriate people. I have already done a video spot on the issue for Internet Evolution/Thinkernet, so maybe other press might have some interest. Regards, Beau Brendler NARALO Chair ------------------------------------ The NARALO observes that at least one ICANN-accredited registrar, United Domains, is offering what it calls "Free nTLD pre-registration" (see https://www.uniteddomains.com/ntld/pre-register-new-domains). United Domains began the offer in advance of ICANN's new gTLD decision in Singapore, and it continues afterwards, in expectation of greater availability in October 2012. United Domains says the pre-registration service is free and non-binding. However, NARALO is concerned the offer of such a service might create consumer confusion and possibly present the opportunity for fraud. In support of this concern, we note that at least one registrar, Blacknight Solutions of Ireland, has issued a press release warning registrants to disregard any such pre-registration offers in new gTLDS, and states that the company "discovered that registrants interested in acquiring domains in rumoured new gTLDs had become confused by these offers, as they are not familiar with how the new TLD implementation might work. This sort of speculative offer is the equivalent of taking a down payment on a concept car that has not been approved for production. It is a false promise." (June 30, 2011, http://www.prlog.org/11565814-blacknight-warn-consumers-against-new-gtld-pre...). The NARALO wishes to remind ICANN that approximately 10 years ago, the announcement of pre-registration for new top-level domains (such as .aero, .coop and so-on) prompted the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to issue a consumer alert (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt084.pdf) that said, in part, "Some registration services are guaranteeing new top level domain names or promising preferential treatment in the registration process.... "But, the agency cautions, these offers may be misleading. "The FTC advises consumers to protect themselves by: ...Avoiding any domain name pre-registration service that guarantees particular top level domain names or preferential treatment in the assignment of new top level domain names.." The NARALO is aware the situation is different now than it was then, and that United Domains and others provide substantial disclosure information about the nature of the pre-registration program. The NARALO also recognizes the FTC action at the time was thought by some in the Internet community to be excessive and alarmist. Therefore, the NARALO recommends that, through ALAC, ICANN undertake public communication that makes clear what, exactly, consumers and others might expect from "pre-registration." It should be the organization that administers the domain name system, not the agents of domain sale, who should be defining the nature of Internet "real estate" in the public interest. _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...)
Sergio, coincido. Creo que es una de nuestras obligaciones informar sobre probables fraudes o al menos conductas engañosas. Coincido también con lo que dicen en su declaración, que dar informes de este tipo, ayuda a que nuestra actividad sea conocida, obrando como una especie de propaganda. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto IIISI -----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de presidencia Internauta Argentina Enviado el: jueves, 11 de agosto de 2011 09:26 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Declaracion de NARALO Estimados compañeros: hace unos días Beu Brendler de NARALO, envió un mail con una declaración advirtiendo a los consumidores sobre el tema de la pre-inscripción. Creo que es un tema que debería ser tratado en ALAC, conforme lo sugiere Beu en su email que reenvío mas abajo, anticipo que me parece de un gran valor esta manifestación que hacen los usuarios de Internet de Norte América, y que ALAC debería hacerse eco de esto. Saludos cordiales *Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>ICANN/LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" -Eduardo Galeano- * -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration Fecha: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:18:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) De: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Responder a: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Para: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Colleagues, The NARALO wants to make a statement warning consumers about the issue of pre-registration. We as a region have developed a text, as follows below. I'm writing to ask whether the ALAC would like to endorse this statement and pass it forward to the board. It also occurs to me that it would make an excellent press release in coordination with the appropriate people. I have already done a video spot on the issue for Internet Evolution/Thinkernet, so maybe other press might have some interest. Regards, Beau Brendler NARALO Chair ------------------------------------ The NARALO observes that at least one ICANN-accredited registrar, United Domains, is offering what it calls "Free nTLD pre-registration" (see https://www.uniteddomains.com/ntld/pre-register-new-domains). United Domains began the offer in advance of ICANN's new gTLD decision in Singapore, and it continues afterwards, in expectation of greater availability in October 2012. United Domains says the pre-registration service is free and non-binding. However, NARALO is concerned the offer of such a service might create consumer confusion and possibly present the opportunity for fraud. In support of this concern, we note that at least one registrar, Blacknight Solutions of Ireland, has issued a press release warning registrants to disregard any such pre-registration offers in new gTLDS, and states that the company "discovered that registrants interested in acquiring domains in rumoured new gTLDs had become confused by these offers, as they are not familiar with how the new TLD implementation might work. This sort of speculative offer is the equivalent of taking a down payment on a concept car that has not been approved for production. It is a false promise." (June 30, 2011, http://www.prlog.org/11565814-blacknight-warn-consumers-against-new-gtld-pre -registration.html). The NARALO wishes to remind ICANN that approximately 10 years ago, the announcement of pre-registration for new top-level domains (such as .aero, .coop and so-on) prompted the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to issue a consumer alert (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt084.pdf) that said, in part, "Some registration services are guaranteeing new top level domain names or promising preferential treatment in the registration process.... "But, the agency cautions, these offers may be misleading. "The FTC advises consumers to protect themselves by: ...Avoiding any domain name pre-registration service that guarantees particular top level domain names or preferential treatment in the assignment of new top level domain names.." The NARALO is aware the situation is different now than it was then, and that United Domains and others provide substantial disclosure information about the nature of the pre-registration program. The NARALO also recognizes the FTC action at the time was thought by some in the Internet community to be excessive and alarmist. Therefore, the NARALO recommends that, through ALAC, ICANN undertake public communication that makes clear what, exactly, consumers and others might expect from "pre-registration." It should be the organization that administers the domain name system, not the agents of domain sale, who should be defining the nature of Internet "real estate" in the public interest. _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA C) _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org
Gracias Alberto por tu aporte siempre a tiempo, constructivo y comprometido. Fuerte abrazo *Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>ICANN/LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" -Eduardo Galeano- * El 13/08/2011 12:32 p.m., Alberto Soto escribió:
Sergio, coincido. Creo que es una de nuestras obligaciones informar sobre probables fraudes o al menos conductas engañosas. Coincido también con lo que dicen en su declaración, que dar informes de este tipo, ayuda a que nuestra actividad sea conocida, obrando como una especie de propaganda. Saludos cordiales
Alberto Soto IIISI
-----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de presidencia Internauta Argentina Enviado el: jueves, 11 de agosto de 2011 09:26 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Declaracion de NARALO
Estimados compañeros: hace unos días Beu Brendler de NARALO, envió un mail con una declaración advirtiendo a los consumidores sobre el tema de la pre-inscripción. Creo que es un tema que debería ser tratado en ALAC, conforme lo sugiere Beu en su email que reenvío mas abajo, anticipo que me parece de un gran valor esta manifestación que hacen los usuarios de Internet de Norte América, y que ALAC debería hacerse eco de esto. Saludos cordiales
*Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>ICANN/LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 *
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"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" -Eduardo Galeano-
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-------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration Fecha: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:18:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) De: Beau Brendler<beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Responder a: Beau Brendler<beaubrendler@earthlink.net> Para: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Dear Colleagues,
The NARALO wants to make a statement warning consumers about the issue of pre-registration. We as a region have developed a text, as follows below.
I'm writing to ask whether the ALAC would like to endorse this statement and pass it forward to the board. It also occurs to me that it would make an excellent press release in coordination with the appropriate people. I have already done a video spot on the issue for Internet Evolution/Thinkernet, so maybe other press might have some interest.
Regards,
Beau Brendler NARALO Chair
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The NARALO observes that at least one ICANN-accredited registrar, United Domains, is offering what it calls "Free nTLD pre-registration" (see https://www.uniteddomains.com/ntld/pre-register-new-domains). United Domains began the offer in advance of ICANN's new gTLD decision in Singapore, and it continues afterwards, in expectation of greater availability in October 2012.
United Domains says the pre-registration service is free and non-binding. However, NARALO is concerned the offer of such a service might create consumer confusion and possibly present the opportunity for fraud. In support of this concern, we note that at least one registrar, Blacknight Solutions of Ireland, has issued a press release warning registrants to disregard any such pre-registration offers in new gTLDS, and states that the company "discovered that registrants interested in acquiring domains in rumoured new gTLDs had become confused by these offers, as they are not familiar with how the new TLD implementation might work. This sort of speculative offer is the equivalent of taking a down payment on a concept car that has not been approved for production. It is a false promise." (June 30, 2011, http://www.prlog.org/11565814-blacknight-warn-consumers-against-new-gtld-pre -registration.html).
The NARALO wishes to remind ICANN that approximately 10 years ago, the announcement of pre-registration for new top-level domains (such as .aero, .coop and so-on) prompted the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to issue a consumer alert (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt084.pdf) that said, in part, "Some registration services are guaranteeing new top level domain names or promising preferential treatment in the registration process....
"But, the agency cautions, these offers may be misleading. "The FTC advises consumers to protect themselves by: ...Avoiding any domain name pre-registration service that guarantees particular top level domain names or preferential treatment in the assignment of new top level domain names.."
The NARALO is aware the situation is different now than it was then, and that United Domains and others provide substantial disclosure information about the nature of the pre-registration program. The NARALO also recognizes the FTC action at the time was thought by some in the Internet community to be excessive and alarmist.
Therefore, the NARALO recommends that, through ALAC, ICANN undertake public communication that makes clear what, exactly, consumers and others might expect from "pre-registration." It should be the organization that administers the domain name system, not the agents of domain sale, who should be defining the nature of Internet "real estate" in the public interest.
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Alberto Soto -
presidencia Internauta Argentina