Aug. 15, 2014
3:29 p.m.
Dear Vanda: FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with Sergio. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda@uol.com.br> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > From: vanda@uol.com.br > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > right > not admit that the new also do so. > Hugs all q > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > ISO 3166). > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > Presidencia@internauta.org.ar>: > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain > and simple > Do not >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > Besides >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > This >> more clear now? > >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > Argentina President Internauta >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > Hangout >>: presidencia@internauta.org.ar > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > Skype >>: internautaargentina > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > orders > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > Galeano * >> > >> > >> > >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > Apisan@unam.mx >> > >>> Wrote: > >> > >>> Sergio, > >>> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > reading > Of >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): > >>> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > LEVEL >> at > >>> GTLD. > >>> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > Aa.tld >>, > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > >>> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > >>> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > >>> > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >>> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia@internauta.org.ar] > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > >>> > >>> Dear Vanda: > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > By >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > That >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > How come >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > Rare >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > Or >> > More >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > About >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > Type >> > Of >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > >> Kind of > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > call > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > Characters >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > Should >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > Wall and >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > I studied >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries > Called >> > Of >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > Are >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > Two >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > Other >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > Level >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > With >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > >>> A dear friend hug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> President Internauta Argentina > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > >>> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >>> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > >>> Galeano * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br> > >>> Wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > >> Domain. > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > >> There are, > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > >>> Allow > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a > Treatment >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > That >> > Do not >> > >>>> Seems fair. > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > What >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > >> - > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > My >> > See >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > These >> > >>>> Names by level. > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > >>>> Hugs > >>>> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > cristiancasas@hotmail.com> > >> Wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > That >> > >>> The > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > With >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > Dispute >> > >>> By > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > >>>>> > >>>>> Cristian Homes > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>>> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>> Lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > Lac-discuss->> es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de Química UNAM > >Av. 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