Yo estuve en Honduras y conocì a las personas que administraban el .hn. Con las co diciones de ese pais y los recursos de los cuales disponìan 4.000 dominios eran una barbaridad. Honduras no es comparable en poblaciòn, desarrollo ni condiciones econòmicas con otros paìses de la regiòn. JOS Original Message: ----------------- From: Johnny Laureano johnnylaureano@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org, carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es][lac-discuss-en] ¿Podría usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = Estimado Carlos, Para referirme con respeto a su singular punto de vista, en anterior oportunidad usted se sumó solidariamente a expresiones de apoyo a una ONG privada hondureña, gestora del ccTLD .ht., la misma que durante casi 20 años, administró sólo 4,000 dominios, pregunto que más alejado de los intereses de los usuarios de Internet que este pobre resultado?. Considero que debe ser preocupación constante que los intereses de las entidades privadas, en general, no colisionen con los intereses de los usuarios de Internet y no sólo reaccionemos por situaciones individuales, por ello mi extrañeza. Por esta razón, manifesté, que tal sea oportuno desarrollar una agenda con el LACTLD para plantear alternativas y soluciones que permitan una mayor acceso a los dominios ccTLD de la región, considerando los altos costos y estrategias comerciales, basados en su posición de monopolios de facto (en LAC y el Perú, por ejemplo), considerando además las insignificantes contribuciones que realizan varias administradores de ccTDL al ICANN, si es que realizan alguna aportación. Le invito a liderar esta iniciativa, su conocimiento sobre el tema y experiencia podrían ser muy útiles para esta propuesta. Finalmente, considero que siempre habrá espacio para la discusión. Cartagena, histórica ciudad de nuestro hermano país será lugar propicio para conversar sobre temas concretos y los que considere pertinentes. Atentamente, Johnny L. AUI PERU - ALS --- On Sat, 4/24/10, carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> wrote: From: carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podría usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F = To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:57 AM Estimado Johny: La pregunta era hacia Nuestro comun amigo Antonio y realmente creo El tiene suficiente capacidad ,y asi lo reconozco ,para contestar por si mismo y darme la contestacion a la preocupacion que sentimos muchos por la actitud asumida e defensa de los intereses corporativos de una empresa privada que esta muy lejos de los intereses de los usuarios , segun mi particular punto de vista. En otro orden me gustaria que Ud participara en la teleconferencias y en el desarrollo de politicas para la region y en colaboracion con ALAC mas alla de solo aparecer para hacer una defensa de alguien que no la necesita, confundiendo conceptos y no aportando nada a la discucion planteada. Ojala podamos encontrarnos en Diciembre en el meeting de Cartagena y poder conversar mas sobre el particular. mis saludos Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:25:22 +0000 From: johnnylaureano@yahoo.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] ¿Podría usted clarificar? =?iso-8859-1?q?Rendiciones_de_cuenta_porque=3F =
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Dear friends, In teleconferencia del day of yesterday, many preoccupations were pronounced respect to the limited participation of the ALS of theregion, by communication problems I could not show a position on the matter, but I was listening to until the end the diverse commitments to obtain a greater participation of the leaders of the ALS, good intention that decays greatly with personal el cuestionamiento of Carlos Aguiire to our friend Antonio Medina (Pdte of ACUI), improper and treacherous cuestionamiento of a representative of a ALS against arepresentative of another ALS. Our Antonio friend, ha informed on the position into the ACUI and have referred diverse connections where one can read all the antecedents that come executing the Colombian State like part from hisestrategia para el dominion ccTLD co. Some antecedents indicate the following thing: The failure of the Council of State of the 10 of July of 2002 ordered to the National Government - Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications "to assume directly or by means of who it designates, within the pertinent legal frame, the administration and handling of dominio.co..." The Resolution 600 of 2002, by which the administration of dominio.co regulates itself partially established that the name of dominion of Internet, under the code of country corresponding to Colombia.co, is a resource of the sector of the telecommunications, ofpublic interest, whose administration, maintenance and development will be under the planning, regulation and control of the State, through the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and the Communications.   It said it and it remembers to us, Jose Luis Barzallo, respectto the intervention limits of the ICANN and of the ALS including in our own countries,  resultado that I am safe they will reflect in the survey that come applying Rudi Vansnick from the relations between theALS and los ccTLD of the region.  Perhaps he is opportune, in view of the results of this survey, from the point of view of the Latin American internauts, to develop an agenda with the LACTLD to raise alternatives and solutions that allow to a greater access to the dominions ccTLD of the region, considering the high costs and commercial strategies, based on their position of monopolies de facto (in Peru, for example).  I am in agreement with most of the initiatives obtaining a greater participation of the spilled ALS the day of yesterday, but I am not in agreement with the irrespetuoso treatment of representativesof a ALS against a worthy one represents of the internauts of our brother country of Colombia, for that reason I want to express my shared in common endorsement to him.  Kindly,  Johnny Laureano AUI PERU - ALS    Â
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From: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> Subject: Could you clarify? To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 8:32 A.M.
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Dear Antonio. After the thought mentioned by Alex. Him desire also asking which is the ACUI position, when the Co now is administered by the company deprived with very diverse interests that users of the end, without the participation of the users of the end ina national Bussiness, and how can explain the fact that the Co will beuse like a cubical centimeter (national dominion of the identification), and the commercial identificator? I am really surprised for its words in the teleconferencing yesterday. Could you explain me? The situation is not clear and I worry for its representation of the users of the end. You are participating or some other delutilizador representative of the end in desitions of ccTLD ofthe Co? Which was the participation of the users of the end in definitions of the legal structure of ccTLD (also used like gTLD)? Of what maneraestán protected rights of users of the end? You!  (same you or its ALS) receives a certain "contribution" of administrator of the Co? Why you made the propaganda of Co in facebook? Are you interested in a growth of the company? and in this case porqué?
Carlos Aguirre
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