Dear All: En relacion con la pregunta motivo del voto de ALAC, claramente mi respuesta seria por el YES. En relacion con el otro tema (CC), creo tendremos tiempo en SF para hablar sobre ello. Esta semana es de verdad complicada para mi. Saludos . Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:43:40 +0000 From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letterof ALAC JAS [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letterof ALAC JAS From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx Sergio, thousand thanks for this note that helps to focus the attention. It seems important to me that Carlos explains the added value to us that saw in the community of consumers; I am open to being convinced, and believe that the information will be valuable for all. I agree with you in which it agrees to read the documents that you indicate. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 3 Sea 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote:
Date: Thu, 03 Sea 2011 15:34:43 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: > Reviewed supply of the to letter of ALAC JAS > > Thanks Carlos to send the mail in the list in Spanish, many of > this list you is going it to be thankful (between whom I am). > > is very interesting the interchange to Me from opinions withrespect to > the Consumer Constituency and the Not For Profit Constituency, podrian to be > so amiable as much vos Carlos as Alex, power to deepen in this, > mainly in the knowledge that you have of the people who > impels... I believe that this can be very good to clarify usthose > that we have not had possibility of interacting with them onpoints of > Vista and excellent information at the time of making decisions. > > Quiero to clarify that the voting shipment is based on this question with > three possi! ble answers: > > Apoya you it ratification of the Observation of ALAC on "comment on > the Draft for Process Recognition of New GNSO Constituencies"stops > to communicate it in the corresponding Public Commentary that this in process? > * With the possible answers: * > * Yes > No > To abstain * > > Propongo that we also read the following Link and that if wehave things > to say from LACRALO we add it in a commentary: > > https://community.icann.org/display/alacdocs/ALAC+Comment+on+the+Draft+Proce... > > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Inter nauta Argentina Association > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > * > > "Hopefully we pruned to be disobedi! ent, whenever we receivedorders that > humiliates our conscien! ce or vi olates our common sense "- Eduardo > Galeano- > > * > > > the 03/03/2011 11:52 a.m., Carlos dionisio Aguirre wrote: > > Considered All. the answer to my opinion on the creation of new constituencies in the GNSO, is that we cannot deny the importance of the participation and the diversity in the discussion. But that this does not have to be considered in abstract at the time of deciding andvoting. For that reason I propose that Our representatives in ALAC before making their voting see documents in links sent in my previous mail that would daran a better idea to them of like voting and doing it responsibly. > > Today the new presented/displayed constituencies is the Consumer Constituency and the Not For Profit Constituency and some but they estan wanting to make its appearance. My individual vision in the caseof these two mentioned is: support the creation of the Consumer Constituency since being in ALAC I have spoken with its impellers and convinced to me (although thi! s is single my opinion which it is on theother hand not shared by ALEX, segun I see in its mail), and I am not very safe to support the for Not Profit x q I have doubts about the distinction (this can be a lack of particular knowledge) between the CC, NFPC, NCUC, NCSG and until as much that doubt it vanishes..... > > > > my two cents > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > NCA GNSO Council - ICANN > > to former ALAC to member by LACRALO > > Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses > > Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Sea 2011 14:30:35 +0000 > > From: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > CC: > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letter of ALAC JAS > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > > ! > Subject: Re: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply o! f the to letter of ALAC JAS > > From: to to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > > > Thanks for Carlos your participation, you would be under amiable to send > > replaced his in the Spanish channel? > > Lamentably the translation to ingles does very difficult to understandthat > > this saying and ace is its position, knows that its opinion is very valuable > > on the subject, but we did not manage to to decipher it from to badone > > translation, tells that in its maternal language we will be able to understand it to better > > those companions of the LACRALO that we spoke fluidly Spanish but that > > the English. > > There am dog clarify if you to U.S. this in agreement with the opinion that maintains > > ALAC with respect to the New GNSO Constituencies? > > Warm greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internaut Argentina Association > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin America! n federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > * > > > > "Hopefully we pruned to be disobedient, to whenever we received orders that > > they humiliate our conscience or sense they violate our common "- Eduardo > > Galeano- > > > > * > > > > > > The 03/03/2011 10:06 a.m., carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com wrote: > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]]> > > Subject: Re: Fw:RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letter of ALAC JAS > Of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > Wanted All: > > electoral With respect to the new districts in GNSO, this one is part of the improvements http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/of GNSO and you invite our representatives in ALAC that read. > to understand the process that I also in! vites to read doccuments - the new process of contituency - in! http:// gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/newco-process-en.htm, to read tolater and to understand those doccuments, safe able I`m you will be todecide to fill your responsabilities. > My certain point of view is that one: I`m in electoral favor to the new districts, but not totallysurely in all the you marry for example I uses to electoral district of the consumers. > I`m not totally surely in marries that of it does not stop the electoral district of the horseradish tree! > > efit, in this marries I have doubts with respect to the differencebetween the cubical to centimeter, NFPC, NCSG, NCUC (I know that it could be an appropriate deficiency of the knowledge of me). And finally I`m almost surely against the to other wichof the electoral districts there are presented/displayed its requests. > > My two cents. > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > Advice of NCA GNSO - ICANN > previous to member of ALAC of LACRALO > In Right of the Businesses of Lawyer - of Specialist >! ; Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > Date: Thu, The 3 Of March 2011 11:45:07 Of +0000 > Of: to to presidencia@internauta.org.ar >: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > cubical Centimeter: > Subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letter of ALAC JAS > > > [ [ - - translated text (is ->)--]] of in > > > Subject: Re: Fw: RESULT OF THEVOTES: Reviewed supply of the to letter of ALAC JAS! > > > Of: to to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > Ace él indicates! > > tes it C > > ar them well in its mail was one of which they represented > of the LACRALO that podrÃÂa not to votes on the supply of ALAC JAS. > > That representing was. > > razón by which I have notbeen able to votes is the breakageof myHD in my PC > invalido cuà l toemit my votes, I req! uest to you excuse all to him by > this, but without the to! compute r was without to doubt impossible to me to do it. > > I must indicate inside that él was going to make affirmative, like expressedit > my mail when envié the alert of the consultation in the list in this subject > did the 01/03, lamentably él was not contribución nuestrasexes > representing, that of insurance very habÃÂa been enriching for all. > > Because to animate the box that I must indicate that, contribuciónvaliosa©Ãƒ l was sàthe of > to other members of región that preocupó to to answer itself themail and > to contributeto its ends of visión and the knowledge for the decision making, > those end! > > s of visión habÃÂan been suitable with ours intención of the votes. > > mail Deseó to take advantage of this to request Carlos to him who offers electoral U.S. to his > point of view in the processes of the recognition of the newGNSO > surpasses to the district, from oft! érminoof dÃÂa 04/03/2011 voting. > > También wantedto lists what the to other members think ours > región, ace ace theream is of to order in this management serà taken inside > counts AT theTime of defining our votes in ofvoting of the processes of > the subjects that plows discussed in ALAC, for él envÃÂo one conexión that dog > to be one guÃÂa in the subject: > > https://community.icann.org/display/alacdocs/ALAC+Comment+on+the+Draft+Proce...; > hot Greetings > > * saline Sergio I take asociación of president Argentina Internaut > Internet of Argentina de Usuarios of<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI - > Latin American Federación! > > of users of the Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO -! > > to member f > > acebook:salinasporto of ALAC > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mo! bi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > the 02/03/2011 12:39 P.! M., carl osaguirre62@hotmail.com escribió: > [ [ - - text translated (in -> is)--]]>>> subject: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTES: Reviewed OfALAC of the supply of the JAS>de to letter: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > Deseó All: I`ve finishes seeing of the email down, and my surprise was very great, because: 1 of 2 that our ALAC eligió regionalrepresentatives, the NINGÃs(N to decides participates in the survey  Deseó to know by qué?  qué in you?  cuà l was motivacióna to decides? después of which él asksabout that ours maximun of opiniónwhen there plows three members of LACRALO in the WG (to Co-chair), and él watch like I who everything deserves our aid (of even being I one él). > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > advice of NC! > > To GNSO - ICANN > previous to member of ALAC of LACRALO > in the right of the businesses of the to lawyer - of the specialist > of Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 ! Cordova - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123 > /423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > dates: Wed, the 2 of march 2011 of 09:55:11 of +0100 > of:  staff@atlarg > e.icann.org > a: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: RESULT [ of ALAC-Anuncie ] of the VOTES: The reviewed to letter ProposalofALAC JAS> > deseó all, > > with 11 members of outside 15 of ALACen which you vote in the recent you vote > proposed the reviewed to letter of ALACJAS, we dog confirm that quorate is the results >. > > *********>>youuse ratificación of the supply repasadade the to letter of ALAC JAS > > sÃÂ: 11 (100.00%) > Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Carlton Samuels, Jean-Jacques Subrenat, Sandra > Hoferichter, Evan Leibovitch, James Seng, Sylvia Leite, Olivier > Crépin-Leblond, the! > > Bashir, Dewandranath Kissoondoyal, Gareth De Mohammed > She! > > arman&g > > t; > not: 0 (0.00%) > > abstains: ! 0 (0.00%) > > ***********>> you dog verify the res! ults ind ependently underneath:  >https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1592gybVUyKuQsbcf9DLza2g>>podemostoconfirm that > did not participate the following members of ALAC > in > votaciÃf³n:  > > Edmon Chungking > Orujo Of memory > &g of nberg >t; Ã?rbol bano Jemaa of rà sharp of saline Tijani > I take accepts Sergio > > you who you dog underneath find the results detodosthe closed you vote of ALAC:  > https://www.bigpulse.com/m7097 > > respect to -->,>> Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina NordstrÃf¶m > personal En-Grande-Grande of ICANN > > > email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > site of the Web: www.atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________> ALAC-Anuncie listthatenvÃfÂÂa > ALAC-Announc! > > e@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce &! gt; > official En-Grande-Grande of the site:  http://atlarge.icann.org > > _______________________________________________>>>>> [ [ - - the original text (inside) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/11êb0a6f5.html > --]]>>>>>!> _______________________________________________> lacquer-to discuss està sending the list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann > org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________> > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/19a716b172.html > --]]> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/db65d40da3.html > --]]> > > > > _______________________________________________> l! > > ac-discuss-i! s mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.ican! > > ! n.org &g t; > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/462d4cc54b.html > > --]] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-in mailing list > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org >
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