Jan. 14, 2011
11:23 p.m.
Another failure of whom seems to work in another organizatión. Embarrasing Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: andrespiazza@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:11:02 To: <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q? RES=Á_RES=Á_Fw=Á_Fw =Á_RESULTA = =?iso-8859-1?q?DO_DEL_VOTO =Á_Declaraci=F3n_de_ALAC_sobre_el_solo _ = =?iso-8859-1?q? car=Eçter_IDN_TLDs = [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_RES=Á_Fw=Á_Fw=Á_RESULTA = =?iso-8859-1?q?DO_DEL_VOTO=Á_Declaraci=F3n_de_ALAC_sobre_el_solo_ = =?iso-8859-1?q?car=Eçter_IDN_TLDs = From: andrespiazza@gmail.com Considered, we followed with this thread The 10 of January of 2011 17:45, Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx>he wrote: > Sylvia, > > the people who follow the ICANN subjects, and in individual those of > IDNs, knows that Dam Bathtub let work recently in ICANN. His > exit widely has been spread. > It is certain. On subject IDN, to only it reduces me to say that we can debate freely on whom to invite (and to propose people for it) in thelist. Anyway, the answer of Alexander wakes up a reflection to me on another subject. For "habitues" of the small world, the news like this so they are spread, that it happens to us sometimes that we cannot understand how anybody did not find out. It is like saying that anybody todaydid not read the announcement of that NIC.AT of Austria, surpassed the million dominions. It is certain that a representative in ALAC would have to oil his mechanisms stops to be always informed. I suppose that Sylvia will fit those nuts. Of all ways, I create very important in this space of the list, that we pruned to facilitate the less active participants, the possibility ofaccess a greater information. My suggestions are very simple: - To add connections in the social networks (Facebook, Linkedin) to people of the community, or to follow them in Twitter. - To read the section of announcements of the ICANN site. - To subscribe to lists (today I spoke of the one of ALAC Announce in a previous mail and obvious AT Large Worldwide is another important one for ours discussions). [ Governance ] treats ample subjects but and is dificil of to follow, but also is extremely recommendable. - To read RSS of sites, tie coverall to the industry. Alexander, your you are one of but experimented in the community of ICANN of this list, I suggest to you you tell greater tips us than those than I could to offer. Warm Greetings, Andrés > > We are to the delay of which a new person responsible is designated for > area. So far, the projects follow in the area of the new Chief > Operations Officer, Arkam Atallah. > > I offer myself, like whenever I can, to find experts to clarify > specific doubts, selecting to the most adapted according to the subject and > optical in question. > > Warm greetings. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >! . > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 sylvia@internautabrasil.org wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:33:24 -0200 > > From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE:HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF > VOTE: > > Declaration of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > > Dear Alexander, > > Thanks for this important and enlightening contribution. > Then > for that they want to learn more on this subject is your > > invitation and the invitation of Dam Bathtub, tina.dam@icann.org, that in > several > > opportunities was arranged to respond on this subject. > >_________________________________________________________ > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > LACRALO-ALAC Member > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem! original > > Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servido! r.unam.m x ] > > Shipment command post: Saturday, 8 of janeiro of 2011 15:14 > > For: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: > Declaration > > of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > > Sylvia, > > > > thanks to recentrar the discussion in the noun. > > > > In this subject - gTLDs of a single character in IDNs - has an angle > additional > > that we cannot discard: > > > > the linguistic one that is of bottom in this subject is very complex and is > well-known > > by very few specialists at world-wide level. The difficulties begin in > > that who we have grown with languages that are not Chinese, Japanese or > Korean > > we do not understand absolutely how they (nor they work them ours, > still > > when they are educated in his lectoescritura). There are fundamental differences. > > > > What it becomes in the! DNS with IDNs, then, is a concerted effort of > > adaptation, that must be limited not to create a cascade of > > instability. > > > > the risk of the resolution at issue is that although it is point less than > > inevitable and urgent to initiate the concession of the registry of gTLDs of > > > single character when behind them it is a language, an alphabet, one > forms > > of writing, or a country (for a very small number of these variables), > > this cannot nor must signficar that by extension the sameones become > > concessions for other groups of interest. These could protest that already > that > > has begun the registry of dominions of a single characteror digit in > > Chinese, cannot have objection to do it for only a Latin character. > > > > the problem is well different as much from the technical point of view like > > from the one of policy of development of the DNS as a whole. And who are > > followed east subject an! d knows the community know that there is much money in > > ! game loo king for the opening of the dominions monocarácte ASCII. > > > > Then, the resolution that supports our community will have to know a clearly one > > limit, and must have continuity in the pursuit by our part > stops > > to avoid that one abuses in its interpretation. > > > > Añado that already the resolution that is to voting has been result of > > negotiations very prolonged, and that space IDN is not free of > > I interest commercial important. Some of most important by > now > > comes accompanied from deep technical knowledge and participated in > > resolution, so that this one already is in the limit of the balance between > > technically feasible and the liberation of space for initiatives > lucrative > > and innovation. > > > > With taste I will enter details or I will put to the interested ones in contact with > > > expert in which I have leaned to study this subject throughout > > > years (and that well are known man! y of You). > > > > Sylvia, a last point: thanks to remember the possible interest to us in > > our region that can arise from preHispanic languages. > Amerita > > to reunite to the hablantes with more knowhow, or to those who > wants > > to propose the TLDs corresponding. Also let us remember that it is possible to be done > > much in the second level. Thus, the countries where thosehablantes reside > > could give to a first step opening the registry of IDNs under ccTLDs > > like pe, ar, bo, cl, mx, etc. In Mexico we have not received at least, > that > > I know, no expression of interest on the matter, but it is necessary to be > > opened it. > > > > > > Warm greeting. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * M! y blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn ! procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . >. . > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 sylvia@internautabrasil.org wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:30:08 -0200 > > > From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: > > > Declaration of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > > > > > > > Dear Miembros of LACRALO: > > > Before more nothing um happy 2011 for all the region and that this year > > > finds us more united than ever and com more participation of! all > > > the ALS (or particular command post the list or by e-mails). > > > command post second place I do mias the words spilled by Sergio respect > > > of the voting "Yes" to the declaration of ALAC on 1 single character IDN > > TLDs. > > > > > > This subject that we have not even given the due importance him in LACRALO > > > since until now single we have concerned ourselves withthe problems stops > > > to write certain letters of our alphabet like ñ of theSpanish, or > > >, ç of the Portuguese. But also tendriamos that to consider > > > if our brothers of Pérú, Bolivia and Chile wanted to write in > > > Aimará or those of Paraguay in Guarany. > > > But if we thought about incorporating the users of China, of Japan, of > > > Korea, etc.; it is of vital importance when since his languages > > > must use sequences of commandos to write a word > > > completes like a single characte! r. And therefore, the voted document > > > by the member! s of ALA C supports the recommendation of which 1 single character > > > and/or 2 characters IDN in the first level and second level in general no > > > must be restricted and that reviews case by case. > > > > > > In this document recommends ademas that a panel of experts evalue > > > the requests of individual character or two characters IDN. > > > > > > For that they are interested in this fasciante subject,I invite a > > > to listen in Spanish and to read the transcription (single the next week) > > > of the teleconferencing in which Sergio and I participated day 21 of > > > December 2010. > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Community+Call+on+Internat > > > ionali > > > zed+Domain+Names+%28IDNs%29+-+21.12.10Aprovecho the opportunity stops > > > to congratulate to Bathtub Dam and Burt Boswinkel by the exelente work that > > > is doing. > > > > > > immediately, > >! > Greetings to all > > > Sylvia > > >_________________________________________________________ > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > > LACRALO-ALAC Member > > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > Of: lac-discuss-she is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > > Presidency Sent Internaut command post: sixth-feira, 7 of janeiro of 2011 > > > 13:01 > > > For: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Cc: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: Declaration > > > of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > > > > Carlos and consi! dered members of LACRALO: > > > > > > Happy New Ye! ar for a ll! > > > > > > Pido excuses by my absence and the one of Sylvia, but we agreed in > > > vacations in the same date and we took advantage of these spaces to be able > > > to make life familiar. > > > > > > I have been a year old very it last from the affective thing with irreparable losses > > > in my family and was necessary to be able to take days me to be able > > > to find with the affection and the containment me of myfamily. > > > > > > Just in my case I will return after day 20 of January. > > > > > > Also we communicated with Sylvia by telephone and we decided to have > > > a meeting of work by Skype to be able to define on thissubject > > > that had been sent to voting in ALAC on IDN, this tapeworm an extra > > > in the definition because it was a subject where I had not had > > > definition nor participation some, since there was a commission of > > > work working ! and was another representative whom already it had to have > > > participated of the debates that had considered in ALAC > and > > that commission. > > > > > > In the meeting informs Sylvia to me that was a reference to take in > > > tells that it was the first document that vote on this subject in May > > > of 2010 ( > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Statement+on+Draft+Fi > > > nal+Re > > > > port+on+Policy+Aspects+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs > > >), where Carlos and Sylvia had voted by the affirmation,from > > > that data we read in the meeting the first report and the result of 2º > > > work that became to the light day 12 of December: "ALACStatement > > > on Final Draft Report on Policy Aspects Regarding Introduction of > > > Single Character IDN TLDs > > > - Version 2." ( > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Statem! ent+on+Draft+Fi > > > nal+Re > > > > port+on+Polic! y+Aspect s+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs > > >) > > > > > > > > > Without having to object nothing on the excellent work that was > > > made the members of this work group and trying in this > > > stage that finds coherence in the decision making that came > > making in the LACRALO. > > > > > > On the other hand I believe that it is necessary that we begin to have one > > > dynamic of work in the different LACRALO, with greater participation > > > on the part of the different components from this wonderful group > > > of organized wills, since it is important for the region that his > > > representing can take to ahead in their opinions the will > > > of the Region and not what single the representative thinks individually, > > > of insurance will be some times that tengamosque to take definitions > > > according to our criterion, but is also going to be good that we pru! ned to take > > > ahead the collective thought of the LACRALO fruit of a fecund one > > > debates on different subjects that are being discussed in ICANN. > > > > > > Saludo the initiative of Carlos in requesting information, and comoélsabe well, > > > since we commented to him this in Cartagena de Indias will be one of > > > comparative virtues of this representative management, single like > > > contributes to elevate the floor of internal democracy,participation, > > > transparency and responsibility within LACRALO; it would seem to me > > > important that also it is possible to be counted in ourTHIN one with a report > > > detailed with respect to different the decision making that > > > took on the part of our previous representative (I knowthat tomaráun > > > time to count on it, but I discard that it will be made > > > responsibly and that the same one will be very beneficial for the comm! unity), > > mainly in its foundation for each one of them. ! > > & gt; > > > Now and until the day Domingo will be being been discussing on the Plan > > > strategic 2011-2014, nothing but neither nothing the less! > > > > > > Would be very good for counting on some contribution onthe part of the companions of > > > LACRALO. > > > > > > warm Greetings > > > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > > MSN/MSN > > > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > > 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > the 06/01/2011 09:56 p.m., carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Fw: Fw:! RESULT OF THE VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the single one > > > > character IDN TLDs > > > > Of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Hace some days, I sent the email down. I have not received any > > > > answer > > > our representatives is the vacations yet or, they are sleeping? > > > Pienso, at least must say that "we have seen it" > > > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > > > Advice of NCA GNSO - ICANN > > > > previous member of ALAC of LACRALO > > > > In Right of the Businesses of Lawyer - of Specialist Sarmiento 71 > > > > - 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina - > > > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > of: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > a: > > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > date: Mon, The 3 Of January > > > 2011 13:49:50 Of +0000 > subject: [ ! lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] Fw: [ > > > ALAC-Anunci! e ] RESU LT of the VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the single one > > > character IDN TLDs > > > to our native Spanish representatives > of > > > the ALAC loudspeakers: It wanted if you can give a certain one > > > explicaciónsobre its vote, and I make easier, and I exceed for > > > users of the end what average: Single Character IDN TLDs. Pienso, > > lacquers that > > > losutilizadores of the end needs their contribution in this. > > > > thanks > > > in advance > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > in Right of > Businesses > > of > > > Lawyer - of Specialist > Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordova- > Argentina > > - > > > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org >> > > > > > > > > > date: Mon, the 3 Of January 2011 12:21:18 Of +0100 > > of: > > > staff@atlarge.icann.org > > a: > > > alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > s! ubject: [ ALAC-Anuncie ]! > > > > RESULT of the VOTE: Declaración deALAC on single carà to cter > > > > IDN > > > > TLDs > > > > Wanted All, > > > > with 13 outside 15 > > > members of ALAC that vote on declaración of ALAC on > > > sketch > > closing report on aspects of the polÃÂtica with > > > with respect to introducción of single carà to cter > > IDN TLDs, > > > we can confirm that the result is quorate. > > > > *******> > > > > > > asks: You use ratificación of > > > declaración of ALAC on sketch > > closing report on > > > aspects of the polÃÂtica with respect to introducción of the single one > > > carà to cter à > > IDN TLDs for comunicación to the público process > > excellent of the commentary > > > > número of voters: > > > 13· Stature of the group: 15&midd! ot; The percentage votó: 86.67> > > > > > &g! t; sà: 13 (100.00%) > > The Bashir, Sylvia Leite, Salt mines > > > Porto, Evan Leibovitch DeMohammed De Sergio, > > Cheryl > > > Langdon-Orr, Tijani Horseradish tree Jemaa, Gareth Shearman, Dewandranath > > > > > Kissoondoyal, Carlton Samuels, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Jean-Jacques > > > > > Subrenat, Orujo Rotenberg, Sandra Hoferichter > > > >not: 0 > > > (0,00 %) > > > > abstains: 0 (0,00 %) > > > > *******> > > > > > > you can review the results independently > > > underneath: > > > > > https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1508Z3mi38mHÃDdc5Nyb5hh > > > > > > > we can confirm that the following members of ALACno > > > participated > > > in > > votación: > > James Seng > > Edmon Chungkin > >> > > > in > > > > > Edmon informó to the members the ALAC the 30 of Decemb! er of 2010 that é! > > > > l abstained > > to participate in this vote due to its contract > > > previous in > > creación of the closing report. Ã0/00lobservó mà s > > > far that él està personally > > of support of declaración > > > of ALAC. > > > > all the closed votes of ALAC can > > > to review underneath: > > https://www.bigpulse.com/m7097 > > > > --> > > > > respect, > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger,Seth > > > Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina > > > Nordström > > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > > > > email: > > > staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org <http://www.atlarge.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________> > ALAC-Anuncie > > > list that envÃÂa > >! ; ALAC-Announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > ! https:// atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > > > > > > Official Site En-Grande: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > >_______________________________________________> lily! > > > > ta that envÃÂa lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@at! > > > > large-li > > > > sts.icann.org > > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > > > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8396313447.html > > > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > htt! ps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > >_______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > >_________________! ______________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list >! lac-dis cuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > -- * Andrés Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com <http://www.andrespiazza.com> _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5dd2c0d063.html --]]