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De: JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> Fecha: 26 de agosto de 2012 20:14:00 GMT-05:00 Para: governance@lists.igcaucus.org, Asunto: [governance] Modern Global Standards Paradigm Responder a: governance@lists.igcaucus.org,JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com>
At 21:45 26/08/2012, IETF Chair wrote:
The version with the phrase deleted is now available: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-iesg-opsplenary-16.pdf
The Internet is now commercial. And the IETF the first strategic opponent of the Civil Society.
Great care should now be paid to the Patinum, Gold and Silver Member ISOC's affiliates IAB/IETF's positions as now revamped by this declaration. Previous RFCs on the matter (RFC 3869 and RFC 3935) said that network technology neutrality depended on Governments' funding of the Internet R&D and that the Internet technology was not to be the technology that's possible but the one that resonated with concepts and core values not mentionned any more and even probably opposed.
This document refers to the *market*, *not* to the users *nor* to the people. 8/26 the Internet 9/11.
The IETF Chair indicates that they want to publish this document as an RFC. I personnally intend to appeal this publication and/or join any collective appeal that could be formed. My personnal position is to defend the IETF "edge-user empowerment" core value documented in RFC 3935, Statement of Mission for the IETF.
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:11 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
Thank you for the lively discussion. Based on the great number of messages, I judge that there is rough consensus for the IETF Chair and the IAB Chair signing the Affirmation. The Last Call asks for people to speak up if they have strong objections. Despite the phrasing of the question, many people spoke in favor of this action.
A few people raised concerns about the process that lead to this document. First, Bernard Aboba, acting as IAB Chair, sent the statement out and asked for comment. Then, the document was discussed in the plenary session on Vancouver. Finally, on August 10th, I sent out the Last Call. Comments sent in reply to Bernard's message and comments from the plenary discussion were addresses prior to the Last Call.
Here are the versions: Asked for comment: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-iesg-opsplenary-4.pdf Last Call: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-iesg-opsplenary-15.pdf
This document is not intended for the standards track. The IAB is considering publication as an Informational RFC to preserve the document in the RFC series.
Based on the comments received during the Last Call, one change is being made to the document. The document said:
4. Availability. Standards specifications are made accessible to all for implementation and deployment. Affirming standards organizations have defined procedures to develop specifications that can be implemented under fair terms. Given market diversity, fair terms may vary from royalty-free (especially where open source is commonplace) to fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory terms (FRAND).
The Last Call raised a concern, asking for deletion of this phrase:
(especially where open source is commonplace)
Based on the Last Call discussion, this change was recommended to the other signers. This change was accepted, and this phrase will be deleted.
Thanks again, Russ Housley IETF Chair
On Aug 10, 2012, at 11:19 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
The IETF Chair and the IAB Chair intend to sign the Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm, which can be found here:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-iesg-opsplenary-15.pdf
An earlier version was discussed in plenary, and the IAB Chair called for comments on the IETF mail list. This version includes changes that address those comments.
Th IETF 84 Administrative plenary minutes have been posted, so that discussion can be reviewed if desired. The minutes are here:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-iesg-opsplenary
On 8 August 2012, the IEEE Standards Association Board of Governors approved this version of the document. The approval process is underway at the W3C as well.
The IETF Chair and the IAB Chair intend to sign the Affirmation in the next few weeks. Please send strong objections to the iab@iab.org and the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-08-24.
Thank you, Russ Housley IETF Chair
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