Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
Please see the latest draft of Phase 1 of the EAI Evaluation Study. This will be part of the discussion at our EAI Call later this week. * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Report.pdf&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__seafile.catalyst.net.nz...> * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Test Cases.xlsx&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__seafile.catalyst.net.nz...> The first is a PDF of the report The second is a spreadsheet of the test suite Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
Report looks good. I would like to point out that Microsoft Outlook is another example where the product is available on multiple platforms (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android) and has significant code differences between platforms. The test suite looks very comprehensive but will take longer to review for accuracy and completeness. From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Don Hollander Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 03:38 To: ua-eai@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week Please see the latest draft of Phase 1 of the EAI Evaluation Study. This will be part of the discussion at our EAI Call later this week. * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Report.pdf&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....> * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Test Cases.xlsx&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....> The first is a PDF of the report The second is a spreadsheet of the test suite Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
Some additional comments from me... -- I would have liked a description of the test to be included in the report. Perhaps something along the line of: * Can an EAI address be created? (relevant components) * Can the application send mail to an EAI Address? (relevant component) * This will include To;, Cc;, & Bcc * This will also include a mixture of EAI & non-EAI addresses in the To, cc, & bcc * This will also include evaluating replies. * Can the application receive mail from an EAI Address (relevant component) * This will include ability to receive, and how the EAI addresses are displayed. * Are Unicode in passwords accepted an EAI Issue? Are the worth testing while we're testing other components? * Is Linkification an EAI issue? Is it worth testing while we're testing other components? * Are the open dots transformed to closed dots * By having these last three items in the body of the report we can easily get decisions from the community. Now looking at the spreadsheet MUA * Do we care about Unstructured Headers? Does it make a difference * Do we care about linkification in this exercise? * Do we care about passwords in Unicode in this exercise? * EA-MUA-032 - this is the alias/transformation issue. We want the message sent with an ASCII Alias, we do NOT want a transformation on the fly I'm not sure that we want to define the failure to support an Open Dot as "failure". But it should be a warning. This specific issue is under discussion. Similarly, the whole linkification thing should probably be a warning, not a failure. I don't think that's core to the EAI issue. But a topic the UASG does have interest. I don't think that there's anywhere that we want to test the Domain Name separate from an email address. Thus, I don't think this tab is relevant (and not relevant in text unless we're testing for linkification) Do we need a 'reference' set of software that we know are EAI ready that we can test against? When we test, do we need to test multiple MUAs against multiple MTAs, etc? And, again, is there already existing a test suite of data that is commonly used? Or is this something that we are creating as well? And, finally, the last part of this contract is to estimate the effort to exercise a pilot evaluation for a single environment. How big do we want this pilot evaluation to be? Just a single instance of each of the component parts or a number larger than 1 to allow some diversity in the testing? Talk tomorrow (my time) Don From: Mark Svancarek (CELA) <marksv@microsoft.com> Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2018 6:01 AM To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>; ua-eai@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: [Ext] RE: Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week Report looks good. I would like to point out that Microsoft Outlook is another example where the product is available on multiple platforms (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android) and has significant code differences between platforms. The test suite looks very comprehensive but will take longer to review for accuracy and completeness. From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Don Hollander Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 03:38 To: ua-eai@icann.org<mailto:ua-eai@icann.org>; ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week Please see the latest draft of Phase 1 of the EAI Evaluation Study. This will be part of the discussion at our EAI Call later this week. * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Report.pdf&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....> * https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Test Cases.xlsx&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....> The first is a PDF of the report The second is a spreadsheet of the test suite Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander
Hi Looking at the spreadsheet, Email use case sheet : Arabic uses cases are not displayed correctly, for example : [image: image.png] the correct form is info6@test.الاختبار-القبول-العالمي other wrong use cases : [image: image.png] [image: image.png] Best regards Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 à 19:24, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> a écrit :
Some additional comments from me…
--
I would have liked a description of the test to be included in the report. Perhaps something along the line of:
- Can an EAI address be created? (relevant components) - Can the application send mail to an EAI Address? (relevant component) - This will include To;, Cc;, & Bcc - This will also include a mixture of EAI & non-EAI addresses in the To, cc, & bcc - This will also include evaluating replies. - Can the application receive mail from an EAI Address (relevant component) - This will include ability to receive, and how the EAI addresses are displayed. - Are Unicode in passwords accepted an EAI Issue? Are the worth testing while we’re testing other components? - Is Linkification an EAI issue? Is it worth testing while we’re testing other components? - Are the open dots transformed to closed dots - *By having these last three items in the body of the report we can easily get decisions from the community. *
Now looking at the spreadsheet
MUA
- Do we care about Unstructured Headers? Does it make a difference - Do we care about linkification in this exercise? - Do we care about passwords in Unicode in this exercise? - EA-MUA-032 – this is the alias/transformation issue. We want the message sent with an ASCII Alias, we do NOT want a transformation on the fly
I’m not sure that we want to define the failure to support an Open Dot as “failure”. But it should be a warning. This specific issue is under discussion.
Similarly, the whole linkification thing should probably be a warning, not a failure. I don’t think that’s core to the EAI issue. But a topic the UASG does have interest.
I don’t think that there’s anywhere that we want to test the Domain Name separate from an email address. Thus, I don’t think this tab is relevant (and not relevant in text unless we’re testing for linkification)
Do we need a ‘reference’ set of software that we know are EAI ready that we can test against?
When we test, do we need to test multiple MUAs against multiple MTAs, etc?
And, again, is there already existing a test suite of data that is commonly used? Or is this something that we are creating as well?
And, finally, the last part of this contract is to estimate the effort to exercise a pilot evaluation for a single environment. How big do we want this pilot evaluation to be? Just a single instance of each of the component parts or a number larger than 1 to allow some diversity in the testing?
Talk tomorrow (my time)
Don
*From:* Mark Svancarek (CELA) <marksv@microsoft.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 August 2018 6:01 AM *To:* Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>; ua-eai@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* [Ext] RE: Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
Report looks good. I would like to point out that Microsoft Outlook is another example where the product is available on multiple platforms (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android) and has significant code differences between platforms.
The test suite looks very comprehensive but will take longer to review for accuracy and completeness.
*From:* UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Don Hollander *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 03:38 *To:* ua-eai@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* [UA-discuss] Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
Please see the latest draft of Phase 1 of the EAI Evaluation Study.
This will be part of the discussion at our EAI Call later this week.
- https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Report.pdf&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz] <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....> - https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Test Cases.xlsx&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz] <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense....>
The first is a PDF of the report
The second is a spreadsheet of the test suite
Don
Don Hollander
Secretary General – UASG
Skype: Don_Hollander
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