Don and Andre

List below need some MAJOR corrections for clear understanding..

EAI Email Providers - would probably mean A company / product which can offer EAI mailbox on IDN domain. Not simply receiving or sending email to EAI.

•Microsoft - (you mean office365, its still not EAI provider, supports EAI)

•Google - ( you mean gmail, and its still not EAI provider, supports EAI)

•Apple - ( apple do not offer EAI and iphone do not support configuration of EAI account, EAI Mail app on IOS does )

•Yandex (Russia) - ( do not offer EAI )

•Coremail (China) - ( looks like you are testing it, however not yet available on their website commercially for public)

•XgenPlus (India) - ( commercially available)

•Throughway (Thailand) ( not aware, however their presentation shows they are using gmail as client to send and receive)

•SaudiNic (Not aware)

•OpenFind (Taiwan) - (on thier website https://www.mailcloudcom.tw/, they are not offering EAI (google search))

•Horde (USA) (https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail - its only webmail, need EAI server at backend like XGENPLUS)

•PostFix (Global) - (PostFix is only MTA, neither has IMAP/POP/Webmail, so cant offer EAI without other supporting client)

•Afilias ( dont know status - public information not available )

•Exim ( just like postfix)

•Sendmail (just like postfix)

So, EAI Service Providers are only few as of now i.e XgenPlus - Fully available Globally (not only in India) in public domain (free and paid), CoreMail and Throughway seems to be available in test mode.

May be we create two lists,, 1) EAI Service Provider and 2) Products / Services Supporting EAI

Also include Android Phone Mail client and Microsoft Outlook 2016, which can allow configuration of EAI, if supported by EAI ready imap / smtp server.

Please correct me if I am missing something.

Deepak

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    3. UASG Events coming up... (Don Hollander)
    4. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Tan Tanaka, Dennis)
    5. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander)
    6. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Yaling Tan)
    7. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander)
    8. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander)
    9. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:54:12 +0000
From: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>
To: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary
Message-ID: <155987FB-B9F1-4A97-B68F-DD21A83D4DDB@lboro.ac.uk>
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When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.

? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)

Notes:

A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.

....and onto something different

Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.

Andr? Schappo

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:58:19 +0000
From: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>
To: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: [UA-discuss] test
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test because it appears email is not being distributed to this list

Andr? Schappo

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:43:25 +0000
From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>
To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Events coming up...
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There are several UA events coming up?

In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance.

On April 11 & 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we?ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you?re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics.

On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we?ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you?ll be attending for catering purposes

On April 12 & 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we?ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. [A list of expected attendees is include in the program - so if you?re planning on being there and not on the list, please do let me know).

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These programs are also published on the UASG.tech home page (at the bottom).

Don

Don Hollander
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:53:44 +0000
From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com>
To: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>, "ua-discuss@icann.org"
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Nice work Andr?!

On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:

     When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.

     ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
     ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
     ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
     ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
     ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)

     Notes:

     A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.

     ..and onto something different

     Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.

     Andr? Schappo



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:20:40 +0000
From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>
To: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>
Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary
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Andre, et al?

Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:

EAI Email Providers
?Microsoft
?Google
?Apple
?Yandex (Russia)
?Coremail (China)
?XgenPlus (India)
?Throughway (Thailand)
?SaudiNic
?OpenFind (Taiwan)
?Horde (USA)
?PostFix (Global)
?Afilias
?Exim
?Sendmail

The Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.

CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)

Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.

Don

> On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.
>
> ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)
>
> Notes:
>
> A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.
>
> ...and onto something different
>
> Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.
>
> Andr? Schappo
>

Don Hollander
Universal Acceptance Steering Group
Skype: don_hollander

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:26:37 +0800
From: Yaling Tan <tyl@teleinfo.cn>
To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com>
Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.

Sent from my iPad

? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> ???

Nice work Andr?!

On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:

    When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.

    ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
    ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
    ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
    ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
    ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)

    Notes:

    A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.

    ..and onto something different

    Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.

    Andr? Schappo

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:42:55 +0000
From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>
To: Yaling Tan <tyl@teleinfo.cn>
Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary
Message-ID: <AD943ADE-A33B-41A3-B46B-4D7B4CDDD410@icann.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.

Chinese E-mail ? Chiang <https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-eai-15mar17-en.pdf>

> On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan <tyl@teleinfo.cn> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> ???
>
> Nice work Andr?!
>
> On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>    When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.
>
>    ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
>    ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
>    ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
>    ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
>    ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)
>
>    Notes:
>
>    A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.
>
>    ...and onto something different
>
>    Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.
>
>    Andr? Schappo
>
>
>
>
>

Don Hollander
Universal Acceptance Steering Group
Skype: don_hollander

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:43:17 +0000
From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>
To: Yaling Tan <tyl@teleinfo.cn>
Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary
Message-ID: <33CE62F4-62C7-4F49-8511-CA4DCFF7B7A3@icannorg>
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I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.

Chinese E-mail ? Chiang <https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-eai-15mar17-en.pdf>

> On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan <tyl@teleinfo.cn <mailto:tyl@teleinfo.cn>> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> ???
>
> Nice work Andr?!
>
> On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk <mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>    When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.
>
>    ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
>    ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
>    ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
>    ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
>    ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)
>
>    Notes:
>
>    A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.
>
>    ...and onto something different
>
>    Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.
>
>    Andr? Schappo
>
>
>
>
>

Don Hollander
Universal Acceptance Steering Group
Skype: don_hollander

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:41:55 +0000
From: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>
To: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary
Message-ID: <A3A3A2F0-EF65-473B-8D0F-C31E33B132A8@lboro.ac.uk>
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Thanks for that list Don. I will use it in my Digital Identities lecture which happens in ~5 hours time?

Andr? Schappo

On 27 Mar 2017, at 19:20, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote:

Andre, et al?

Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:

EAI Email Providers
?Microsoft
?Google
?Apple
?Yandex (Russia)
?Coremail (China)
?XgenPlus (India)
?Throughway (Thailand)
?SaudiNic
?OpenFind (Taiwan)
?Horde (USA)
?PostFix (Global)
?Afilias
?Exim
?Sendmail

The Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.

CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)

Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.

Don

On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote:

When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.

? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language
? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese
? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic
? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)
? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)

Notes:

A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.

....and onto something different

Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.

Andr? Schappo

Don Hollander
Universal Acceptance Steering Group
Skype: don_hollander

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