The video from the Tennessee state house of representatives where this bill was pitched can be found here (about 10 min long): http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=269&clip_id=8600&meta_id=15 8484 "... you came up with a Wang Dangger!" - Rep. Johnny Shaw I believe Rep. Todd is mistaken in his assertion that staying on DST year-round would give more daylight to schoolchildren waiting at the bus stop in the morning. Wouldn't it actually work in reverse? -----Original Message----- From: tz-bounces@iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces@iana.org] On Behalf Of lennox@cs.columbia.edu Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:07 AM To: Arthur David Olson Cc: tz@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Tennessee time (was Web sites using recent versions of the tz database) On Wednesday, February 19 2014, "Arthur David Olson" wrote to "tz@iana.org" saying:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Zoidsoft <zoidsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Tennessee has proposed permanent daylight time: http://www.chattanoogan.com/2014/2/18/269932/ Legislation-Making-Daylight-Savings.aspx
If this moves forward at the state level, things could get interesting. The US Uniform Time Act lets states choose whether or not to make the DST switch, but may not allow for permanent DST (which would, in effect, be a time zone switch).
"Full text - Daylight Saving Time - United States Law - 15 USC 6(IX) (260-7)" http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/usc.html
A reminder: I am not a lawyer.
@dashdashado
In principle, Tennessee could simultaneously move to Atlantic time, and stop using Daylight Savings Time. I think the fact that they could choose to call their resulting UTC-4 time zone "EDT" rather than "AST" probably wouldn't be in violation of the Uniform Time Act (but I'm not a lawyer either). That said, the federal Department of Transportation (which apparently has jurisdiction over such things) hasn't allowed Maine to move to Atlantic Time, so the odds that they'd allow Tennessee to do so seem rather low. (If Maine does ever manage to move its time zone, naming its zone identifier is going to be an interesting challenge for the TZDB -- since "America/Portland" is rather unfortunately ambiguous...) -- Jonathan Lennox lennox@cs.columbia.edu
URL clipped. Sorry. http://tinyurl.com/l4s49tt -----Original Message----- From: tz-bounces@iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces@iana.org] On Behalf Of Matt Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 9:45 PM To: lennox@cs.columbia.edu; 'Arthur David Olson' Cc: tz@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Tennessee time The video from the Tennessee state house of representatives where this bill was pitched can be found here (about 10 min long): http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=269&clip_id=8600&meta_id=15 8484 "... you came up with a Wang Dangger!" - Rep. Johnny Shaw I believe Rep. Todd is mistaken in his assertion that staying on DST year-round would give more daylight to schoolchildren waiting at the bus stop in the morning. Wouldn't it actually work in reverse? -----Original Message----- From: tz-bounces@iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces@iana.org] On Behalf Of lennox@cs.columbia.edu Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:07 AM To: Arthur David Olson Cc: tz@iana.org Subject: Re: [tz] Tennessee time (was Web sites using recent versions of the tz database) On Wednesday, February 19 2014, "Arthur David Olson" wrote to "tz@iana.org" saying:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Zoidsoft <zoidsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Tennessee has proposed permanent daylight time: http://www.chattanoogan.com/2014/2/18/269932/ Legislation-Making-Daylight-Savings.aspx
If this moves forward at the state level, things could get interesting. The US Uniform Time Act lets states choose whether or not to make the DST switch, but may not allow for permanent DST (which would, in effect, be a time zone switch).
"Full text - Daylight Saving Time - United States Law - 15 USC 6(IX) (260-7)" http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/usc.html
A reminder: I am not a lawyer.
@dashdashado
In principle, Tennessee could simultaneously move to Atlantic time, and stop using Daylight Savings Time. I think the fact that they could choose to call their resulting UTC-4 time zone "EDT" rather than "AST" probably wouldn't be in violation of the Uniform Time Act (but I'm not a lawyer either). That said, the federal Department of Transportation (which apparently has jurisdiction over such things) hasn't allowed Maine to move to Atlantic Time, so the odds that they'd allow Tennessee to do so seem rather low. (If Maine does ever manage to move its time zone, naming its zone identifier is going to be an interesting challenge for the TZDB -- since "America/Portland" is rather unfortunately ambiguous...) -- Jonathan Lennox lennox@cs.columbia.edu
Matt Johnson wrote:
I believe Rep. Todd is mistaken in his assertion that staying on DST year-round would give more daylight to schoolchildren waiting at the bus stop in the morning. Wouldn't it actually work in reverse?
This was noted during debate on the bill. Rep. Kent Williams of Elizabethton asked, "Does this actually give us an extra hour of sunlight?" and then suggested that maybe Tennessee could legislate to have six months of daylight and six months of darkness. The Tennessean ran a poll in which "yes" meant you preferred an extra hour of sunlight, and "no" meant you liked things the way they are. Seriously. As of today 66% voted for extra sunlight, 29% for leaving things alone, and 5% undecided. Despite (or perhaps because of) the confusion, the bill passed its subcommittee vote and will go to the full committee. Sisk C. TN lawmakers skeptical of proposed changes to daylight saving time. The Tennessean 2014-02-15. http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140215/NEWS0201/302150012/TN-lawmakers-s... POLL: Under a proposed bill, Tennesseans would stop adjusting their clocks twice a year. What do you think of it? Tennessean 2015-02-15. http://www.tennessean.com/interactive/article/20140214/NEWS03/140214014/POLL...
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