Fwd: Quintana Roo change to EST?
My translation of the cited article: "... the new time zone will come into effect at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we will have to advance the clock one hour from its current time, ... "Federal deputy Lizbeth Gamboa Song stated that a new change for the month of April is not considered as yet, given that only the State will advance to summer time. "Nevertheless, the deputy noted that Summer Time has applied in Mexico since 1996, to which all entities of the federation adhere, advancing their clocks one hour. In addition, she noted that it is yet unknown whether Quintana Roo will participate in a further change, but if so, the authorities will officially publish that fact in due time." My Spanish is not native level, but I think the article makes it clear that the decision about DST for Quintana Roo has not yet been made. Gwillim Law On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steffen Thorsen <thorsen@timeanddate.com> wrote:
On 08/12/14 14:18 , Steffen Thorsen wrote:
The Mexican state of Quintana Roo will likely change to EST in 2015, by not going back from DST in October 2015. Its a bit unclear if they will still observe DST the years after.
According to this source, Quintana Roo will change to EST as soon as 1 February 2015 at 2am: http://sipse.com/novedades/confirman-aplicacion-de-nueva- zona-horaria-para-quintana-roo-132331.html
Through Google Translate, it says "According to the authorities, the term of the new time zone start at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we brought forward one hour actual[?] hours, so the clock will be three o'clock."
Also, the new zone will not use DST.
Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com
According to Boletín Nº 4764 from Mexico's Cámada de Diputados, the modification of the Hour System Law in the United States of Mexico (Ley del Sistema de Horario en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos) has been approved, although this modification has not yet been published. Links: - Boletin Nº 4764: http://www5.diputados.gob.mx/index.php/esl/Comunicacion/Boletines/2014/Dicie... - Ley del Sistema Horaio en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos: http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/ref/lsheum.htm Saludos, Carlos On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gwillim Law <gwillim@gmail.com> wrote:
My translation of the cited article:
"... the new time zone will come into effect at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we will have to advance the clock one hour from its current time, ...
"Federal deputy Lizbeth Gamboa Song stated that a new change for the month of April is not considered as yet, given that only the State will advance to summer time.
"Nevertheless, the deputy noted that Summer Time has applied in Mexico since 1996, to which all entities of the federation adhere, advancing their clocks one hour. In addition, she noted that it is yet unknown whether Quintana Roo will participate in a further change, but if so, the authorities will officially publish that fact in due time."
My Spanish is not native level, but I think the article makes it clear that the decision about DST for Quintana Roo has not yet been made.
Gwillim Law
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steffen Thorsen <thorsen@timeanddate.com
wrote:
On 08/12/14 14:18 , Steffen Thorsen wrote:
The Mexican state of Quintana Roo will likely change to EST in 2015, by not going back from DST in October 2015. Its a bit unclear if they will still observe DST the years after.
According to this source, Quintana Roo will change to EST as soon as 1 February 2015 at 2am: http://sipse.com/novedades/confirman-aplicacion-de-nueva- zona-horaria-para-quintana-roo-132331.html
Through Google Translate, it says "According to the authorities, the term of the new time zone start at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we brought forward one hour actual[?] hours, so the clock will be three o'clock."
Also, the new zone will not use DST.
Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com
Since the anticipated change is now less than two weeks away, I've drafted some patches, attached. (0001 is just a minor fixup to a previous NEWS item for grammatical consistency.) 0002 simply shifts America/Cancun, the existing zone representing Quintana Roo state, ahead by one hour from CST with daylight saving to EST without, effective 2015-02-01 02:00. As for 0003, which carves out a new zone for Felipe Carrillo Puerto's divergent history, it's not clear the extent to which this is actually necessary. What did FCP actually do between 1998 and the present? Would someone calling local offices be effective in helping us find out? (In the meantime, I've simply created this patch so we can at least get a sense of what it might look like; I don't actually feel that it should be applied at this time until these questions are resolved.) -- Tim Parenti On 14 Jan 2015 12:35, Carlos Raúl Perasso wrote:
According to Boletín Nº 4764 from Mexico's Cámada de Diputados, the modification of the Hour System Law in the United States of Mexico (Ley del Sistema de Horario en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos) has been approved, although this modification has not yet been published.
Links:
- Boletin Nº 4764: http://www5.diputados.gob.mx/index.php/esl/Comunicacion/Boletines/2014/Dicie...
- Ley del Sistema Horaio en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos: http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/ref/lsheum.htm
Saludos,
Carlos
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gwillim Law <gwillim@gmail.com <mailto:gwillim@gmail.com>> wrote:
My translation of the cited article:
"... the new time zone will come into effect at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we will have to advance the clock one hour from its current time, ...
"Federal deputy Lizbeth Gamboa Song stated that a new change for the month of April is not considered as yet, given that only the State will advance to summer time.
"Nevertheless, the deputy noted that Summer Time has applied in Mexico since 1996, to which all entities of the federation adhere, advancing their clocks one hour. In addition, she noted that it is yet unknown whether Quintana Roo will participate in a further change, but if so, the authorities will officially publish that fact in due time."
My Spanish is not native level, but I think the article makes it clear that the decision about DST for Quintana Roo has not yet been made.
Gwillim Law
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steffen Thorsen <thorsen@timeanddate.com <mailto:thorsen@timeanddate.com>> wrote:
On 08/12/14 14:18 , Steffen Thorsen wrote:
The Mexican state of Quintana Roo will likely change to EST in 2015, by not going back from DST in October 2015. Its a bit unclear if they will still observe DST the years after.
According to this source, Quintana Roo will change to EST as soon as 1 February 2015 at 2am: http://sipse.com/novedades/confirman-aplicacion-de-nueva-zona-horaria-para-q...
Through Google Translate, it says "According to the authorities, the term of the new time zone start at two o'clock on the first Sunday of February, when we brought forward one hour actual[?] hours, so the clock will be three o'clock."
Also, the new zone will not use DST.
Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com <http://timeanddate.com>
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015, Tim Parenti wrote:
+# Felipe Carrillo Puerto municipio (within Quintana Roo state) +Zone America/FCP_QRoo -5:52:11 - LMT 1922 Jan 1 0:07:49 + -6:00 - CST 1981 Dec 23 + -5:00 Mexico E%sT 1998 Aug 2 2:00 + -5:00 - EST
You could call it FCPuerto_QRoo and still remain within the 14 character limit. --apb (Alan Barrett)
On 19 January 2015 at 00:02, Alan Barrett <apb@cequrux.com> wrote:
You could call it FCPuerto_QRoo and still remain within the 14 character limit.
I chose "FCP_QRoo" because apparently they're fairly commonly used abbreviations. We're now just about a week away from the anticipated 1 February change. Have we heard anything new, enough to apply patches 0001 and 0002 from http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2015-January/021960.html? -- Tim Parenti
On 01/18/2015 04:57 PM, Tim Parenti wrote:
As for 0003, which carves out a new zone for Felipe Carrillo Puerto's divergent history, it's not clear the extent to which this is actually necessary. What did FCP actually do between 1998 and the present? Would someone calling local offices be effective in helping us find out? (In the meantime, I've simply created this patch so we can at least get a sense of what it might look like; I don't actually feel that it should be applied at this time until these questions are resolved.)
Thanks for preparing those patches. I think you're right, we're not enough sure about America/FCP_QRoo to put it in. I did push it into the experimental repository, along with some minor followup fixups, but decided to revert it. Your other patches look fine, and I've pushed them with the attached minor additional change (since the Q Roo patch is more important than the leap second patch). It's time for a new release soon, what with this and the Chile changes.
The decree that modifies the Mexican Hour System Law has finally been published at the Diario Oficial de la Federación ( http://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5380123&fecha=31/01/2015). It establishes 5 zones for Mexico: 1- Zona Centro (Central Zone): Corresponds to longitude 90 W, includes most of Mexico, excluding what's mentioned below. 2- Zona Pacífico (Pacific Zone): Longitude 105 W, includes the states of Baja California Sur; Chihuahua; Nayarit (excluding Bahía de Banderas which lies in Central Zone); Sinaloa and Sonora. 3- Zone Noroeste (Northwest Zone): Longitude 120 W, includes the state of Baja California. 4- Zona Sureste (Southeast Zone): Longitude 75 W, includes the state of Quintana Roo. 5- The islands, reefs and keys shall take their timezone from the longitude they are located at. Data in v. 2015a reflect these changes. Saludos, Carlos On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
On 01/18/2015 04:57 PM, Tim Parenti wrote:
As for 0003, which carves out a new zone for Felipe Carrillo Puerto's divergent history, it's not clear the extent to which this is actually necessary. What did FCP actually do between 1998 and the present? Would someone calling local offices be effective in helping us find out? (In the meantime, I've simply created this patch so we can at least get a sense of what it might look like; I don't actually feel that it should be applied at this time until these questions are resolved.)
Thanks for preparing those patches. I think you're right, we're not enough sure about America/FCP_QRoo to put it in. I did push it into the experimental repository, along with some minor followup fixups, but decided to revert it. Your other patches look fine, and I've pushed them with the attached minor additional change (since the Q Roo patch is more important than the leap second patch).
It's time for a new release soon, what with this and the Chile changes.
Thanks, I applied the attached commentary patch.
I think we may have been mistaken that Quintana Roo would not have DST. According to Mexican National Metrology Centre (CENAM), it remains intact.http://www.cenam.mx/Hora_oficial/nzhm.aspx Are they incorrect? Or are we?
There were conflicting reports about this back when Mexico was considering doing the change in October of this year. As I understand it, Mexico decided to move the change up to this month, and to stay on EST all year. For a brief summary please see: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/mexico-quintana-roo-time-zone.html It could well be that this is wrong. There's at least one English-language source saying that it hasn't been decided whether Quintana Roo will observe DST: http://www.blogsouthwest.com/who-moved-my-queso-cancun-changes-time-zone/ and perhaps we'll need a further update once this becomes decided or sufficiently clear. That being said, my (admittedly limited) understanding of QRoo politics suggests that they won't observe DST this year. That CENAM web page is reasonably generic and perhaps its author didn't think about (or want to think about) predicting exactly what will happen in April.
participants (6)
-
Alan Barrett -
Carlos Raúl Perasso -
Gwillim Law -
Matt Johnson -
Paul Eggert -
Tim Parenti