East Timor - Leste?
I have noticed that some sources insist that there was a name change of East Timor to (the more portuguese correct) Timor Leste or Timor-Leste. Even official sources are not consistant in the naming, but I have noted that two important sources http://www.imf.org/external/country/index.htm and http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49alpha.htm http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49chang.htm are consistently using Timor-Leste. I presume that this is also where the recent East Timor (or Timor-Leste) abbreviations TLS (ISO 3-letter country code) and TL (ISO 2-letter country code) are derived from. Should we make a name change? Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard@Prodigy.Net.mx Project Leader (Líder de Proyecto) Software CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 Download the free program World Time Explorer, I made: http://www.cimmyt.org/timezone/index.htm
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Jesper wrote:
Should we make a name change?
Yes. I can confirm that I have heard the story behind the new name explained in the Unicode mailing list (but I can't remember if it was Portugese or Dutch). That's the official new name. roozbeh
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 23:58:24 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?= <jnorgard@prodigy.net.mx>
I have noticed that some sources insist that there was a name change of East Timor to (the more portuguese correct) Timor Leste or Timor-Leste.
I noticed that too. This doesn't affect the tz database proper; just iso3166.tab, which contains unofficial but common English names for countries, e.g. "Libya" rather than "Libyan Arab Jamahiriya". In English, the name "East Timor" is still far more common than "Timor-Leste", so I don't think iso3166.tab needs to change yet. A tougher example of the problem is "Cote d'Ivoire", which is just barely more common than "Ivory Coast" in English (according to Google, anyway). My daily newspaper, the Los Angeles Times, had used "Cote d'Ivoire" for several years, but has now switched back to "Ivory Coast". If this turns into a wider trend, at some point I suppose the tz database should switch to the name "Ivory Coast" in iso3166.tab. Something else that will affect both iso3166.tab and zone.tab is the renaming of Yugoslavia to Serbia & Montenegro, which will probably get them a new country code to replace YU; see <http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/01whats-new/2003-02-06 _statement_yu.html>.
] I have noticed that some sources insist that there was a name change ] of East Timor to (the more portuguese correct) Timor Leste or Timor-Leste. ] Even official sources are not consistant in the naming, but I have noted that ] two important sources ] ] http://www.imf.org/external/country/index.htm ] ] and ] ] http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49alpha.htm ] http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49chang.htm ] ] are consistently using Timor-Leste. I presume that this is also where the ] recent East Timor (or Timor-Leste) abbreviations TLS (ISO 3-letter country code) ] and TL (ISO 2-letter country code) are derived from. Should we make a name ] change? Australians are still calling it "East Timor". So I wouldn't change the English name of the country in iso3166.tab. But I would change "TP" (which used to stand for "Timor Portuguese") to "TL". Since the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency has published this change to "TL", this change could be done whenever it is convenient (hopefully in the next release of tzdata). References: http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/03updates-on-iso-3166/nlv... http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/03updates-on-iso-3166/nlv... http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/03updates-on-iso-3166/ind... ___________________________________________________________________________ David Keegel <djk@cybersource.com.au> http://www.cyber.com.au/users/djk/ Cybersource P/L: Linux/Unix Systems Administration Consulting/Contracting
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