Sydney, Australia (and other places) DST indication (or lack thereof)
I'm testing my zone conversion process and I thought I could just check the conversion with the Internet. So I get local time for Sydney, Australia, and then check my result with internet searches by searching for "time in Sydney Australia." Bing returns Current time in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia It is currently 11:31:34 AM on 10/30/2011 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) Google returns 11:31am Sunday (EST) - Time in Sydney NSW, Australia Time oriented sites... timeanddate.com returns Sunday, October 30, 2011 at 11:31:34 AM EDT worldtimeserver.com returns 11:31 AM Sunday, October 30, 2011 Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) +1100 UTC (I selected both of those because they're referenced in the australasia data.) The two websites returned "EDT", and Bing implies "EDT" with its "Eastern Daylight Time." I thought I had a bug, but review of the tz database clearly states otherwise...it's "EST". Google was the only one to get it right (according to the tz database, that is.) So I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is some unwritten accepted practice of referring to Australian daylight saving time as EDT in colloquial speech, even though that labeling doesn't actually exist. Any thoughts on the subject are appreciated.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 02:48, <Willy@willylorenzo.com> wrote:
The two websites returned "EDT", and Bing implies "EDT" with its "Eastern Daylight Time." I thought I had a bug, but review of the tz database clearly states otherwise...it's "EST". Google was the only one to get it right (according to the tz database, that is.)
Ah, the famous "Eastern Standard Time" (EST) vs "Eastern Summer Time" (EST) thing?
So I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is some unwritten accepted practice of referring to Australian daylight saving time as EDT in colloquial speech, even though that labeling doesn't actually exist. Any thoughts on the subject are appreciated.
I wonder what the result would have been if you had used Australian sources, rather than ones influenced by US usage which use "xST/xDT" labels. (Not that I can think of any good one, but I will say that Bing is a US company and Chaos Software, the company behind worldtimeserver, is, too. That doesn't explain timeanddate, though.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:48:20 -0400 From: Willy@willylorenzo.com Message-ID: <20111030.004820.919.1@WL01> | So I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is some unwritten accepted | practice of referring to Australian daylight saving time as EDT As Philip said, there has been a lot of disscussion of this topic over the years - check the list archives - and I doubt there's much to be gained by doing it all again. Referring to summer time as "daylight saving time" is relatively common in normal usages, though it is actually defined as "summer time" in most of the Aust jurisdictions (the states are in charge, not the Commonwealth govt) - but actual use of the string "EDT" is (or was, the last time I looked) relatively rare. kre
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