Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels sent a letter Monday to the U.S. Dept. of Transportation supporting time reversal petitions filed by Pulaski County and (jointly) by Daviess, Dubois, Knox, Martin and Pike counties, asking to move back from central to eastern time. Starke and Perry counties have not petitioned to return to eastern time. "Time reversal petitions".... That has a nice ring to it. Dan Shaw reported yesterday that Pulaski county is currently in disarray. Two sample quotes from his article indicate how bad it is: "When you go to Francesville, the grocery store and the bank runs on Eastern time," [Mike Tiede, the president of the Pulaski County commissioners] said. "Medaryville runs on Central time. In Winamac, they run mostly on Eastern. It's just a zoo."... West Central School Corp., which serves slightly fewer than 1,000 students in Pulaski and Jasper counties, has remained on Eastern time and has taken to announcing events in both times. Some say the district should compromise and set its clocks back by a half an hour. Reference: Dan Shaw, Pulaski County ready to ditch time zone 'zoo', Lafayette Journal & Courier (2006-08-15 05:00 EST) <http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/NEWS/608150320/1152/NEWS>
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Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels sent a letter Monday to the U.S. Dept. of Transportation supporting time reversal petitions filed by Pulaski County and (jointly) by Daviess, Dubois, Knox, Martin and Pike counties, asking to move back from central to eastern time. Starke and Perry counties have not petitioned to return to eastern time.
"Time reversal petitions".... That has a nice ring to it.
Dan Shaw reported yesterday that Pulaski county is currently in disarray. Two sample quotes from his article indicate how bad it is:
"When you go to Francesville, the grocery store and the bank runs on Eastern time," [Mike Tiede, the president of the Pulaski County commissioners] said. "Medaryville runs on Central time. In Winamac, they run mostly on Eastern. It's just a zoo."...
West Central School Corp., which serves slightly fewer than 1,000 students in Pulaski and Jasper counties, has remained on Eastern time and has taken to announcing events in both times. Some say the district should compromise and set its clocks back by a half an hour.
Reference:
Dan Shaw, Pulaski County ready to ditch time zone 'zoo', Lafayette Journal & Courier (2006-08-15 05:00 EST) <http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/NEWS/608150320/1152/NEWS>
One other funny thing I just noticed about Dan Shaw's article <http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/NEWS/608150320/1152/NEWS>: its time stamp says "PUBLISHED: 08-15-06 5:00 AM EST". But Lafayette is in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, which is observing Eastern Daylight Time now, not "EST". If the newspaper can't even get its own time stamps right, no wonder mortals working for lesser institutions like the schools have problems. (Though it seems that the bars have the best-set clocks right now....) I'll CC: this article to Dan Shaw to let him know about the problem with his newspaper's web site. Perhaps he can forward it to his website administrator. Mr. Shaw, for your reference, this email is part of a discussion on an international mailing list devoted to time zone and daylight saving time issues. The first article in the discussion is archived at <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/1165>. And, by the way, thanks for your article: it's rare to find issues like these reported so well.
Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote on Wed, 16 Aug 2006 at 10:19:09 -0700 in <877j1838fm.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu>:
its time stamp says "PUBLISHED: 08-15-06 5:00 AM EST". But Lafayette is in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, which is observing Eastern Daylight Time now, not "EST".
If the newspaper can't even get its own time stamps right, no wonder mortals working for lesser institutions like the schools
If a major national newspaper like the New York Times can't get it right, the chances aren't good for smaller papers, especially those in a confusing place like Indiana. I noticed recently that the NYT's automated email messages (about headlines, etc.) transit a machine that claims to be -0400 but has a clock in Eastern time (which is -0500 right now). For instance: Received: from omitted by content119b.lga2.nytimes.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <97.0065010F@content119b.lga2.nytimes.com>; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 3:22:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:20:43 -0500 I made some attempt to find the right person to mention this to recently, but my experience is finding the right person is 2/3 of the battle. --jhawk
John Hawkinson said:
If a major national newspaper like the New York Times can't get it right, the chances aren't good for smaller papers, especially those in a confusing place like Indiana.
I noticed recently that the NYT's automated email messages (about headlines, etc.) transit a machine that claims to be -0400 but has a clock in Eastern time (which is -0500 right now).
Pardon my confusion, but I thought that New York observed "DST", which means that Eastern time is EDT is -0400 right now.
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This does indicate a lack of clue, however. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Work: <clive@demon.net> | Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 Internet Expert | Home: <clive@davros.org> | Fax: +44 870 051 9937 Demon Internet | WWW: http://www.davros.org | Mobile: +44 7973 377646 THUS plc | |
Clive D.W. Feather <clive@demon.net> wrote on Thu, 17 Aug 2006 at 06:52:08 +0100 in <20060817055208.GA3201@finch-staff-1.thus.net>:
I noticed recently that the NYT's automated email messages (about headlines, etc.) transit a machine that claims to be -0400 but has a clock in Eastern time (which is -0500 right now).
Pardon my confusion, but I thought that New York observed "DST", which means that Eastern time is EDT is -0400 right now.
Yes, it does, and I botched my summary, as was also noted by Ken Pizzini. --jhawk
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