In zone.tab, the America/Indiana/Vincennes comments were changed to "Eastern - IN (Da, Du, K, Mn)". IMHO, those abbreviations aren't distinct enough to identify specific counties in Indiana. We used to say "Daviess, Dubois, Knox & Martin". Da and Du I might be able to figure out, but K could just as well be Kosciusko County, and Mn could be Madison or Marion. Can we just return them to their names please?
On 06/18/2016 03:27 AM, Matt Johnson wrote:
In zone.tab, the America/Indiana/Vincennes comments were changed to "Eastern - IN (Da, Du, K, Mn)". IMHO, those abbreviations aren't distinct enough to identify specific counties in Indiana.
We used to say "Daviess, Dubois, Knox & Martin". Da and Du I might be able to figure out, but K could just as well be Kosciusko County, and Mn could be Madison or Marion.
Can we just return them to their names please?
Those are official abbreviations. Kosciusko is Ko, Madison is M. http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/files/countysite_designations.pdf Countries with more then 24 entries, like the United States, must limit comments to 34 characters to accommodate paging in an 80x24 display.
Those are official abbreviations. Kosciusko is Ko, Madison is M. http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/files/countysite_designations.pdf
Hmmm... The list appears to be about the county designations used in archaeological site numbers. I'm not sure that makes them the official abbreviations, nor would a typical Hoosier know about them. The page is linked from here: http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/3668.htm I found a completely different set of abbreviations used in County Formation Maps, on various sites, such as this one: http://www.mapofus.org/indiana/ Not sure if either set are official, but the second set at least seems more sensible.
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Thanks. I hadn't heard that before. Spec somewhere? -Matt
On 06/18/2016 09:54 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
Those are official abbreviations. Kosciusko is Ko, Madison is M. http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/files/countysite_designations.pdf
Hmmm... The list appears to be about the county designations used in archaeological site numbers. I'm not sure that makes them the official abbreviations, nor would a typical Hoosier know about them. The page is linked from here: http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/3668.htm
I found a completely different set of abbreviations used in County Formation Maps, on various sites, such as this one: http://www.mapofus.org/indiana/
Not sure if either set are official, but the second set at least seems more sensible.
Official may have been the wrong word to use, but the Indiana State government seems like a stronger reference for current abbreviations than a genealogy site which appears to be using historic ones. I don't know what source Paul used. Perhaps he has a more canonical reference.
Countries with more then 24 entries, like the United States, must limit comments to 34 characters to accommodate paging in an 80x24 display.
Thanks. I hadn't heard that before. Spec somewhere?
It's on my TODO list. Time constraints forced me to pause my contributions to this project. The initial draft is here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2016-February/023249.html Then it was updated to always delimit sub-regions with a semicolon: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2016-March/023296.html The character length limit discussion: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2016-February/023279.html I had written that the limits where 35 and 76, but for Bash it turns out the limits are 34 and 75.
-Matt
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016, at 21:54, Matt Johnson wrote:
Those are official abbreviations. Kosciusko is Ko, Madison is M. http://www.in.gov/dnr/historic/files/countysite_designations.pdf
Hmmm... The list appears to be about the county designations used in archaeological site numbers. I'm not sure that makes them the official abbreviations, nor would a typical Hoosier know about them.
As someone who lives in Indiana, I think people are more likely to know their county _number_ (which appears on car license plates) than an obscure 'official' abbreviation. Not that I'm suggesting actually using the numbers for this purpose. I'm not sure a systematic "list all the counties" approach is best in general. For one thing, it misleadingly excludes the counties that need to be on a non-"Indiana" zone (Chicago is the big one, and Louisville and IIRC New_York are also represented). It may be that trying to capture all the information people need to pick a timezone in the descriptions is futile. To a typical user setting up a new computer and not caring about the exact local-timezone hour of timestamps from before it was set up, there isn't a single place the state that isn't adequately served by Chicago and New_York. Would it be too much to ask for someone to whom it is important to read a few paragraphs of actual documentation rather than a half-line description?
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