It appears that Haiti is observing DST this year as well, same rules as US/Canada. They did it last year as well, and it looks like they are going to observe DST every year now (based on the sources listed below). A user tipped us, we found these sources that verifies it: http://radiovision2000haiti.net/public/haiti-avis-changement-dheure-dimanche... http://www.canalplushaiti.net/?p=6714 Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com
At 09:33 3/10/2013, Steffen Thorsen wrote:
It appears that Haiti is observing DST this year as well, same rules as US/Canada. They did it last year as well, and it looks like they are going to observe DST every year...
So, the island of Hispaniola is divided in its DST observance. The Dominican Republic does not observe DST. Before this change, crossing the Haiti/DR border meant a transition between UTC-4 and UTC-5 all year long. Now, during DST, they are both UTC-4. Regards, Steve Jones OnTimeZone.com
Thanks for the heads-up. Here's the obvious patch for this, which I've pushed to the github experimental version. This seems high-priority, since it affects today's time stamps, so I'd like to generate a new tz version soon.
From cfdfcf9e917176e12fca00bf51070de464fbf81e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:22:47 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] * northamerica (Haiti): Haiti is using US-style rules this year, too.
Assume this will continue. Thanks to Steffen Thorsen, in <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2013-March/018761.html>. --- northamerica | 25 +++++++++++-------------- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-) diff --git a/northamerica b/northamerica index 9de6f5d..1964903 100644 --- a/northamerica +++ b/northamerica @@ -3000,24 +3000,21 @@ Zone America/Guatemala -6:02:04 - LMT 1918 Oct 5 # apparently using the same start and end date as USA/Canada. # So this means they have already changed their time. # -# (Sources in French): -# <a href="http://www.alterpresse.org/spip.php?article12510"> # http://www.alterpresse.org/spip.php?article12510 -# </a> -# <a href="http://radiovision2000haiti.net/home/?p=13253"> # http://radiovision2000haiti.net/home/?p=13253 -# </a> # -# Our coverage: -# <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/haiti-dst-2012.html"> -# http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/haiti-dst-2012.html -# </a> - # From Arthur David Olson (2012-03-11): # The alterpresse.org source seems to show a US-style leap from 2:00 a.m. to # 3:00 a.m. rather than the traditional Haitian jump at midnight. -# Assume a US-style fall back as well XXX. -# Do not yet assume that the change carries forward past 2012 XXX. +# Assume a US-style fall back as well. + +# From Steffen Thorsen (2013-03-10): +# It appears that Haiti is observing DST this year as well, same rules +# as US/Canada. They did it last year as well, and it looks like they +# are going to observe DST every year now... +# +# http://radiovision2000haiti.net/public/haiti-avis-changement-dheure-dimanche... +# http://www.canalplushaiti.net/?p=6714 # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Haiti 1983 only - May 8 0:00 1:00 D @@ -3029,8 +3026,8 @@ Rule Haiti 1988 1997 - Apr Sun>=1 1:00s 1:00 D Rule Haiti 1988 1997 - Oct lastSun 1:00s 0 S Rule Haiti 2005 2006 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00 1:00 D Rule Haiti 2005 2006 - Oct lastSun 0:00 0 S -Rule Haiti 2012 only - Mar Sun>=8 2:00 1:00 D -Rule Haiti 2012 only - Nov Sun>=1 2:00 0 S +Rule Haiti 2012 max - Mar Sun>=8 2:00 1:00 D +Rule Haiti 2012 max - Nov Sun>=1 2:00 0 S # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Port-au-Prince -4:49:20 - LMT 1890 -4:49 - PPMT 1917 Jan 24 12:00 # P-a-P MT -- 1.7.10.4
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. Here's the obvious patch for this, which I've pushed to the github experimental version.
This seems high-priority, since it affects today's time stamps, so I'd like to generate a new tz version soon.
Yes, an official 2012b release sooner rather than later would be very helpful. Also for the pending Paraguay changes. It would be so nice if countries could be convinced not to make last minute changes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Changes with lead time measured in days or weeks rather than months cause a bit of internal hustle, trying to get them fully deployed before the time changes take effect, or to at least minimize the amount of time we are live with the wrong time. Having the time zone updates released even a few days sooner in these cases can be a big help. If there's anything we could do to help, please let me know. Thanks, -- Andy Heninger aheninger@google.com
On 3/11/2013 11:27 AM, Andy Heninger wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu <mailto:eggert@cs.ucla.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. Here's the obvious patch for this, which I've pushed to the github experimental version.
This seems high-priority, since it affects today's time stamps, so I'd like to generate a new tz version soon.
Yes, an official 2012b release sooner rather than later would be very helpful. Also for the pending Paraguay changes.
It would be so nice if countries could be convinced not to make last minute changes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Changes with lead time measured in days or weeks rather than months cause a bit of internal hustle, trying to get them fully deployed before the time changes take effect, or to at least minimize the amount of time we are live with the wrong time. Having the time zone updates released even a few days sooner in these cases can be a big help.
If there's anything we could do to help, please let me know.
We've noticed that 2013b is already in ICANN site, http://www.iana.org/time-zones, but no official email about that. Appreciate if we get email notifications once the update pushed to this site. Thanks Abhijit
Thanks,
-- Andy Heninger aheninger@google.com <mailto:aheninger@google.com>
An announcement was sent to tz-announce@iana.org yesterday. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Abhijit Saha (Oracle) < Abhi.Saha@oracle.com> wrote:
On 3/11/2013 11:27 AM, Andy Heninger wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up. Here's the obvious patch for this, which I've pushed to the github experimental version.
This seems high-priority, since it affects today's time stamps, so I'd like to generate a new tz version soon.
Yes, an official 2012b release sooner rather than later would be very helpful. Also for the pending Paraguay changes.
It would be so nice if countries could be convinced not to make last minute changes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Changes with lead time measured in days or weeks rather than months cause a bit of internal hustle, trying to get them fully deployed before the time changes take effect, or to at least minimize the amount of time we are live with the wrong time. Having the time zone updates released even a few days sooner in these cases can be a big help.
If there's anything we could do to help, please let me know.
We've noticed that 2013b is already in ICANN site, http://www.iana.org/time-zones, but no official email about that.
Maybe you should subscribe to that list (tz-announce@iana.org) if you want the announcements. -- Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler@gmail.com> #include <disclaimer.h> Guardian of DBD::Informix - v2013.0118 - http://dbi.perl.org "Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused."
On 03/11/13 11:59, Jonathan Leffler wrote:
An announcement was sent to tz-announce@iana.org <mailto:tz-announce@iana.org> yesterday.
Yes, I again forgot to CC: to tz@iana.org. I was in a hurry; sorry. You can read the announcement here: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2013-March/000010.html
On 11/03/2013 21:25, Paul Eggert wrote:
On 03/11/13 11:59, Jonathan Leffler wrote:
An announcement was sent to tz-announce@iana.org <mailto:tz-announce@iana.org> yesterday.
Yes, I again forgot to CC: to tz@iana.org. I was in a hurry; sorry. You can read the announcement here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2013-March/000010.html
Maybe there's a way to do it automatically with some configuration setting on the tz-announce mailing list? If not, would subscribing tz@iana.org to the tz-announce list work? -- -=( Ian Abbott @ MEV Ltd. E-mail: <abbotti@mev.co.uk> )=- -=( Tel: +44 (0)161 477 1898 FAX: +44 (0)161 718 3587 )=-
On 03/11/13 14:47, Ian Abbott wrote:
Maybe there's a way to do it automatically with some configuration setting on the tz-announce mailing list? If not, would subscribing tz@iana.org to the tz-announce list work?
Neither approach would support replies well. I suppose that I should use an email header like this: To: tz-announce@iana.org, tz@iana.org Reply-To: tz@iana.org
Paul, Would it be possible (or reasonable) to add tz as a subscriber to tz-announce? It seems I'm not the only one who had the understanding of an intended superset relationship between tz and tz-announce. This was suggested in http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-May/017830.html shortly after tz-announce was first proposed. -- Tim Parenti On 11 March 2013 17:25, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
On 03/11/13 11:59, Jonathan Leffler wrote:
An announcement was sent to tz-announce@iana.org <mailto: tz-announce@iana.org> yesterday.
Yes, I again forgot to CC: to tz@iana.org. I was in a hurry; sorry. You can read the announcement here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2013-March/000010.html
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tim Parenti wrote:
Would it be possible (or reasonable) to add tz as a subscriber to tz-announce? It seems I'm not the only one who had the understanding of an intended superset relationship between tz and tz-announce. This was suggested in http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-May/017830.html shortly after tz-announce was first proposed.
Yes please. I understood that tz-announce was to carry a subset of the messages sent to tz, so that we could choose to subscribe either to tz-announce (for only the announcements), or to tz (for everything). Having to subscribe to both lists to get everything is certainly not what I want, and is also not what I thought was going to happen when tz-announce was created. --apb (Alan Barrett)
On 3/11/13 5:25 PM, Paul Eggert wrote:
On 03/11/13 11:59, Jonathan Leffler wrote:
An announcement was sent to tz-announce@iana.org <mailto:tz-announce@iana.org> yesterday.
Yes, I again forgot to CC: to tz@iana.org. I was in a hurry; sorry. You can read the announcement here:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2013-March/000010.html
The git SHA1 for tz2013b is 014d6f775d2469fb42cfb4d2e58afdd134eaee82 not 0fdbcdc2528dc22773c260bd3978910845cf9eab as stated in the announcement. -- Alan Gutierrez ~ @bigeasy
On 2013-03-14 00:44, Paul Eggert wrote:
On 03/13/2013 04:52 PM, Alan Gutierrez wrote:
The git SHA1 for tz2013b is 014d6f775d2469fb42cfb4d2e58afdd134eaee82 not 0fdbcdc2528dc22773c260bd3978910845cf9eab as stated in the announcement.
Yes, thanks for correcting that.
I think it's worth posting the correction to tz-announce as well. -- -=( Ian Abbott @ MEV Ltd. E-mail: <abbotti@mev.co.uk> )=- -=( Tel: +44 (0)161 477 1898 FAX: +44 (0)161 718 3587 )=-
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Abhijit Saha (Oracle) -
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Ian Abbott -
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Steffen Thorsen -
Steve Jones -
Tim Parenti