FW: Proposed Shortening of Daylight Savings Time [Israel 2002]

Steve Summit is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Steve Summit [mailto:scs@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:45 PM To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov Cc: scs@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Proposed Shortening of Daylight Savings Time [Israel 2002] A few days ago, this snippet passed my way, which I'm sure the members of the tz list are already familiar with:
While today the Knesset passed the initial proposal to reduce DST by some three weeks, a new compromise is being worked out between Minister of Justice Meir Sheetrit and Minister of Interior Eli Yishai to revert to standard time for a period of 48-96 _hours_ (sic) around the Yom Kippur fast day (September 15-16) and then go *back* to DST until the end of October. The details of the proposal have yet to be worked out, but the second and final readings of the bill have until July 24 to pass.
That announcement prompted this reflection: I've occasionally wondered how much the deployment of our favorite tz package was slowed (back before it was as widespread as it is now, that is) by a perception that it was overkill. "Yes, there have been some historical quirks with time zones and DST in the past, and we used to be at the mercy of lawmakers who didn't know better, but now that everyone knows what a bad idea irregular times are, surely there won't be any more of them going forward, so we can use a minimal, compiled-in table of the historical quirks, and avoid all of these dynamically-loaded tables and associated overhead." If the 48-96 hour version of the Israeli bill passes, I'm thinking that Arthur David Olsen ought to get the Turing Award. Return-Path: <> Received: from spf12.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-36.outblaze.com [205.158.62.36]) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6FD7pAf012784 for <tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost) by spf12.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/us4-yg) id g6FD7keS023190; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Message-Id: <200207151307.g6FD7keS023190@spf12.us4.outblaze.com> To: <tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g6FD7keS023190.1026738466/spf12.us4.outblaze.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g6FD7keS023190.1026738466/spf12.us4.outblaze.com The original message was received at Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT from 205-158-62-35.outblaze.com [205.158.62.35] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <yiango@iname-com.programmer.net> (reason: 552 recipient storage full, try again later) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mta1.us4.outblaze.com.:
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--g6FD7keS023190.1026738466/spf12.us4.outblaze.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; spf12.us4.outblaze.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; 205-158-62-35.outblaze.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT Final-Recipient: RFC822; yiango@iname-com.programmer.net Action: failed Status: 5.2.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; mta1.us4.outblaze.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 recipient storage full, try again later Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT --g6FD7keS023190.1026738466/spf12.us4.outblaze.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Return-Path: <tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov> Received: from spf8.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-35.outblaze.com [205.158.62.35]) by spf12.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/us4-yg) with ESMTP id g6FD7keS023131 for <yiango@iname-com.programmer.net>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:46 GMT Received: from kafka.net.nih.gov (kafka.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.10]) by spf8.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6FD7jcZ005387 for <yiango@programmer.net>; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:07:45 GMT Received: from lecserver.nci.nih.gov (elsie.nci.nih.gov [137.187.215.78]) by kafka.net.nih.gov (/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g6FD7I4V004569; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lecserver.nci.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6FD7DAf012665; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ado@localhost) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6FD6xP8012631; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: lecserver.nci.nih.gov: ado set sender to tz-request@elsie.nci.nih.gov using -f Message-ID: <CFC0DFECD5F33B46A67BAD80B618EEA15AA95C@nihexchange2.nih.gov> From: "Olson, Arthur David (NCI)" <olsona@dc37a.nci.nih.gov> To: "List Time Zone (E-mail)" <tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov> Subject: FW: Proposed Shortening of Daylight Savings Time [Israel 2002] Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"21J5aC.A.jCD.ljsM9"@lecserver> Resent-From: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov X-Mailing-List: <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov> archive/latest/1488 X-Loop: tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov Precedence: list Resent-Sender: tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov --g6FD7keS023190.1026738466/spf12.us4.outblaze.com-- Return-Path: <ephraim@cs.huji.ac.il> Received: from cse.cs.huji.ac.il (cse.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.30]) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6O8eKmD026685 for <tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from control.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.33] ident=mail) by cse.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 17XHgi-0000MC-00; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:40:04 +0300 Received: from ephraim by control.cs.huji.ac.il with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17XHgi-0001iZ-00; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:40:04 +0300 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:40:04 +0300 (IDT) From: Ephraim Silverberg <ephraim@cs.huji.ac.il> To: machba-l@LISTSERV.AC.IL cc: "List Time Zone (E-mail)" <tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov> Subject: Update: Proposed Shortening of Daylight Savings Time [Israel 2002] In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.20_heb2.08.0207101537460.2923-100000@control.cs.huji.ac.il> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20_heb2.08.0207241131160.6574-100000@control.cs.huji.ac.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, I wrote:
The details of the proposal have yet to be worked out, but the second and final readings of the bill have until July 24 to pass.
The proposal did not make it to the Knesset in time for its summer recess (starting today). Since the recess is over at the beginning of October, in order to end DST before September 16, a special session of the Knesset Committee (where the proposal is currently stuck), the Interior Ministry Committee (the next stage) and the Knesset itself would be required to change the end date for 2002. However, the office in the Interior Ministry that deals with DST says that this is probably what is going to happen. Meanwhile, the end date for the 2002 DST remains 1 a.m., October 7, 2002. ___________________________________________________________________________ Ephraim Silverberg, CSE System Group, Phone number: 972-2-6585521 Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. Fax number: 972-2-5617723 WWW: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~ephraim E-mail: ephraim@cse.huji.ac.il Return-Path: <> Received: from spf12.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-36.outblaze.com [205.158.62.36]) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6O8fcmD027026 for <tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost) by spf12.us4.outblaze.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/us4-yg) id g6O8fTcS031813; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:41:29 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:41:29 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Message-Id: <200207240841.g6O8fTcS031813@spf12.us4.outblaze.com> To: <tz-request@lecserver.nci.nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="g6O8fTcS031813.1027500089/spf12.us4.outblaze.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --g6O8fTcS031813.1027500089/spf12.us4.outblaze.com The original message was received at Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:41:28 GMT from 205-158-62-35.outblaze.com [205.158.62.35] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <yiango@iname-com.programmer.net> (reason: 552 recipient storage full, try again later) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mta1.us4.outblaze.com.:
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