Darren Blanch is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately (and note Darren's request at the end of the message). --ado

From darspam@optusnet.com.au Sat Apr 3 05:00:35 2004 Return-Path: <darspam@optusnet.com.au> Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.212]) by lecserver.nci.nih.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i33A0X7e005553 for <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 05:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (webmail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.239]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i33A0Md32146 for <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 20:00:26 +1000 Message-Id: <200404031000.i33A0Md32146@mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [211.30.125.100] as user darspam@optusnet.com.au by webmail.optusnet.com.au with HTTP; From: darspam@optusnet.com.au To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 20:00:22 +1000 Subject: summer / daylight time terminology usage Sydney, AU Return-Receipt-To: darspam@optusnet.com.au Status: RO

I found ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ via a reference in rfc2445. The "australasia" document within tzdata2003e.tar.gz made for a specially interesting read. I may be able to add something to the AESD/AEDT/EST/summer/daylight time debate: I am from Sydney, NSW, and have lived there all my life. I distinctly remember from when I was growing up (in the 70s), that people (incl. commercial TV news/weather) used to refer to "EST" for Eastern Standard Time and "DST" for Daylight Savings Time. Weather reports were generally tailored for each city/region so the "Eastern" could be inferred. (This inconsistency disturbed my naturally logical bent, even as a child, which is why I remember it.) However, the phrase "Eastern Summer Time" was also in wide use. These days, AEST and AEDT seem to be widespread, possibly an American influence?? As to the phrase "summer time" versus "daylight time", the locals almost never say "daylight time". Subjectively, I would say that "daylight savings time" is the most common phrase in use, rather than "summer time" (even though the legislation uses "summer time"). Similarly, when talking about start and end dates, we would say "when does daylight savings start?" or "when does daylight saving start?". Note, not "daylight savings time" but "[the practice of] daylight-saving". Regards, Darren R. BLANCH (SN=Blanch,GN=Darren) Blacktown, NSW, Australia dns:darren.blanch.name [Please direct replies to darspam@bhsc.nsw.gov.au in addition to darspam@optusnet.com.au, since I check the work address more frequently. Also, please don't include my email addresses in any versions of the data file - just "Darren R. Blanch" should suffice if your policies allow.]