Not time related. Only for pedantry sake: at the border between San Marino and Italy there *are* controls, by the Italian police. This is due to different tax laws in the two countries, which would make shopping in San Marino very convenient for Italy residents, if they weren't controlled when exiting from RSM for any good bought in RSM, and forced to pay due taxes. FWIW Il giorno 11 luglio 2018, alle ore 09:08, John Wilcock <john@tradoc.fr> ha scritto: Le 11/07/2018 à 00:05, Brian Inglis a écrit :

Most people are probably not that aware of European geography [...]

Taking the world as a whole, you are no doubt correct, but most of the people at the EU who will be reading Paul's submission will be perfectly aware of European geography!

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I don't see the relevance of "Schengen area" - all current and potential Schengen area countries are either EU or EEA/EFTA members. The Schengen Area also includes non-EU/EEA/EFTA countries Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican, which have not signed the Schengen agreement, but have no borders, so are de facto included.

While these three countries are indeed de facto within the Schengen area due to the lack of border *controls* — they do still have borders ;-) — it still seems (at least to me as a European) very odd to mention Schengen purely in order to include its *non*-signatories, especially as the next item in the list is in any case the all-inclusive "other countries not in the EU". -- John