FW: Countries added to ISO
I'm forwarding this message from Jonas Melian, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Jonas Melian [mailto:jonas@mailup.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:32 To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Countries added to ISO Newsletter VI-1 [1] – Published 2007-09-21: new entries for Saint Barthélemy and Saint Martin, update of France and other French Territories Saint Barthélemy: Alpha-2 ISO: BL Zone: America Saint Martin (French part): Alpha-2 ISO: MF Zone: America [1] http://www.iso.org/iso/newsletter_vi-1.pdf
It would be very helpful for us if we could get a release quickly that added these to zone.tab (with new IDs and Links). Any possibility of that? For the IDs, I'd suggest either Saint_Barthelemy or Gustavia for the first, and either Saint_Martin or Marigot for the second. From the CIA Factbook, here are the capitals and locations. *name:* Gustavia *geographic coordinates:* 17 53 N, 62 51 W *time difference:* UTC-4 (1 hour behind Washington, DC, during Standard Time) *daylight savings:* +1 hour, starts 20 March and ends 17 October *name:* Marigot *geographical coordinates:* 18 04 N, 63 05 W *time difference:* UTC-4 (1 hour behind Washington, DC, during Standard Time) *daylight savings:* +1 hour These country codes were split off from Guadeloupe, and so had the same timezone rules. So they can be initially Linked to Guadeloupe. # Guadeloupe # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Guadeloupe -4:06:08 - LMT 1911 Jun 8 # Pointe a Pitre -4:00 - AST Mark On Nov 8, 2007 6:12 AM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] < olsona@dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:
I'm forwarding this message from Jonas Melian, who is not on the time zone mailing list.
Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately.
--ado
-----Original Message----- From: Jonas Melian [mailto:jonas@mailup.net] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:32 To: tz@lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Countries added to ISO
Newsletter VI-1 [1] – Published 2007-09-21: new entries for Saint Barthélemy and Saint Martin, update of France and other French Territories
Saint Barthélemy: Alpha-2 ISO: BL Zone: America
Saint Martin (French part): Alpha-2 ISO: MF Zone: America
-- Mark
"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> writes:
It would be very helpful for us if we could get a release quickly that added these to zone.tab (with new IDs and Links). Any possibility of that?
Hmm, OK, what's the rush? This doesn't affect any time zone data per se; it's just auxiliary info. (Are the 7000 people of St Barthelemy bombarding us with email, demanding that they not be forced to set TZ='America/Guadeloupe'? :-)
For the IDs, I'd suggest either Saint_Barthelemy or Gustavia for the first, and either Saint_Martin or Marigot for the second.
I have been leaning towards America/St_Barthelemy and America/Marigot, for reasons discussed earlier on this list.
These country codes were split off from Guadeloupe, and so had the same timezone rules. So they can be initially Linked to Guadeloupe.
Yes, that makes sense.
Well, BCP 47 just updated to the new country codes. Following that, we have just updated Unicode CLDR for them, and now we are missing a mapping from country codes to timezone for the new country codes. That mapping is used in a number of places, including the localizations, so it is not a trivial lack. CLDR's going out at the end of this month (1.5.1), and is used in ICU (among other places), which is going out in December (3.8.1), and my company (Google) uses ICU and would upgrade thereafter. So it's kind of a domino effect. Thus we'd appreciate adding the new country codes so that everything's in sync. Mark On Nov 13, 2007 12:32 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> writes:
It would be very helpful for us if we could get a release quickly that added these to zone.tab (with new IDs and Links). Any possibility of that?
Hmm, OK, what's the rush? This doesn't affect any time zone data per se; it's just auxiliary info. (Are the 7000 people of St Barthelemy bombarding us with email, demanding that they not be forced to set TZ='America/Guadeloupe'? :-)
For the IDs, I'd suggest either Saint_Barthelemy or Gustavia for the first, and either Saint_Martin or Marigot for the second.
I have been leaning towards America/St_Barthelemy and America/Marigot, for reasons discussed earlier on this list.
These country codes were split off from Guadeloupe, and so had the same timezone rules. So they can be initially Linked to Guadeloupe.
Yes, that makes sense.
-- Mark
CLDR is set up to work with any stock version of the tzdb of a given version or later. While we could make an internal change in a tzdb used for testing with CLDR, it means we would be out of sync with whatever tzdb was being used with it by others. If the tzdb doesn't change, some things will just not work properly, which is why we were hoping that it wouldn't be too much trouble to get a new standard version of the tzdb. It is understandable if there are production constraints that prevent this. Mark On Nov 13, 2007 9:31 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> writes:
now we are missing a mapping from country codes to timezone for the new country codes.
Can you map the new country codes to America/Guadeloupe for now? That will be equivalent to anything we do in tz.
-- Mark
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