Re: [tz] The State of Palestine has adopted the first part of the specification for its time zone
On 1/4/22 09:12, Eliot Lear via tz wrote:
The TZ update process here has no formal recognition of governments (any governments). Still, statements from governments, however they reach this group, tend to carry a lot of weight.
Quite true. In the past we've given a lot of weight to official government documents, and we welcome future cooperation in this area as this will streamline communication. (All too often for many countries in the past, we've had to rely on third parties or the popular press to forward their governments' information to us, which has resulted in inaccuracies and delays in updating the database.) From the timekeeping point of view, the most important thing is to know the UTC offsets and the rules for when daylight saving time starts and stops in Palestine, and for technical reasons it's best to have this nailed down well in advance - preferably at least a year before rules change. Currently for Palestine, tzdb lists standard time of UTC+02, and it says daylight saving time starts at 00:00 on the first Saturday on or after March 24, and ends at 01:00 on the first Friday on or after October 23. Unfortunately, as far as I know these daylight saving time rules are not official, in that there's no official Palestinian government document listing these rules for future years; however, tzdb must put *something* in the database and that's the best guess we've come up with. If the government could publish an official document stating what the rules are for future years, we'd be happy to adjust tzdb to match that. Of lesser importance is the English-language abbreviation used for standard and daylight saving time in Palestine. (This is less important because most timekeeping applications do not rely on these abbreviations, as they are inherently ambiguous and somewhat deprecated anyway.) Here, tzdb attempts to follow common practice, and it currently uses the same longstanding abbreviations for time in Palestine that it uses for Cyprus, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria - namely "EET" and "EEDT" (short for "Eastern European Time" and "Eastern European Summer Time"). I am unaware of any English-language use of the abbreviations "PSST" and "PSDT" to refer to civil timekeeping in this area. However, if these abbreviations become popular in common practice we should change tzdb to incorporate them.
On 1/4/22 09:50, Paul Eggert wrote:
"EET" and "EEDT" (short for "Eastern European Time" and "Eastern European Summer Time")
Sorry, I meant to write "EEST" not "EEDT".
Dear Mr. Paul, I agree with you, and there will be a studied plan to determine the beginning and the end of summer time in Palestine for the coming years. You will be provided with any update on the subject as soon as the official decisions are obtained. I would also like to point out that PSST is an acronym for Palestine Standard Time PSDT stands for Palestine daylight saving time With respects, Sent from Mail for Windows From: Paul Eggert Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 8:08 PM To: heba.hamad@mtit.gov.ps Cc: laith.daraghmeh@mtit.gov.ps; rasheed hanoon; Time zone mailing list Subject: Re: The State of Palestine has adopted the first part of thespecification for its time zone On 1/4/22 09:12, Eliot Lear via tz wrote:
The TZ update process here has no formal recognition of governments (any governments). Still, statements from governments, however they reach this group, tend to carry a lot of weight.
Quite true. In the past we've given a lot of weight to official government documents, and we welcome future cooperation in this area as this will streamline communication. (All too often for many countries in the past, we've had to rely on third parties or the popular press to forward their governments' information to us, which has resulted in inaccuracies and delays in updating the database.) From the timekeeping point of view, the most important thing is to know the UTC offsets and the rules for when daylight saving time starts and stops in Palestine, and for technical reasons it's best to have this nailed down well in advance - preferably at least a year before rules change. Currently for Palestine, tzdb lists standard time of UTC+02, and it says daylight saving time starts at 00:00 on the first Saturday on or after March 24, and ends at 01:00 on the first Friday on or after October 23. Unfortunately, as far as I know these daylight saving time rules are not official, in that there's no official Palestinian government document listing these rules for future years; however, tzdb must put *something* in the database and that's the best guess we've come up with. If the government could publish an official document stating what the rules are for future years, we'd be happy to adjust tzdb to match that. Of lesser importance is the English-language abbreviation used for standard and daylight saving time in Palestine. (This is less important because most timekeeping applications do not rely on these abbreviations, as they are inherently ambiguous and somewhat deprecated anyway.) Here, tzdb attempts to follow common practice, and it currently uses the same longstanding abbreviations for time in Palestine that it uses for Cyprus, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria - namely "EET" and "EEDT" (short for "Eastern European Time" and "Eastern European Summer Time"). I am unaware of any English-language use of the abbreviations "PSST" and "PSDT" to refer to civil timekeeping in this area. However, if these abbreviations become popular in common practice we should change tzdb to incorporate them.
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