West Australia DST: to be or not to be
http://origin.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20747523-5006789,00.ht ml We will soon know if West Australia DST is on or not: this week should give final vote, according to the article. Regards, - Jesper Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard@Prodigy.Net.mx Project Leader (Líder de Proyecto) Software CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (55) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (55) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 Download the shareware program World Time Explorer, I made: http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/index.html
The answer appears to be yes - WA are trialing DST for three years. Here's the official link: http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/web/ newwebparl.nsf/iframewebpages/Bills+-+Current (You'll have to concat the above two lines to form one link). Search for "Daylight Saving Bill (No. 2) 2006". The bill has been passed by both houses and is now awaiting assent (whatever that means - sounds like a done deal though). Daylight savings kicks in as follows: (a) the hour of 2 a.m. on 3 December 2006 until the hour of 2 a.m. on 25 March 2007; and (b) the hour of 2 a.m. on 28 October 2007 until the hour of 10 2 a.m. on 30 March 2008; and (c) the hour of 2 a.m. on 26 October 2008 until the hour of 2 a.m. on 29 March 2009, Anyone more familiar than I with the tz database want to make the update? I'm particularly interested in something working for Mac OS X. Thank you. Christopher
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:00:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher Hunt <huntc@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <loom.20061121T235956-4@post.gmane.org> | The bill has been passed by both houses and is now awaiting assent | (whatever that means - sounds like a done deal though). Any bill needs royal assent before becoming law. In Aust, that's done by the state govenor (or the governor general for commonwealth laws) acting as the Queen's representative. This is essentially the same as getting approval from the President or a state Giovenor in the US (or lack of a veto perhaps) - except that in practice, assent is essentially never withheld (it has happened only a handful of times in all of Australian independence, and not for a long time now ... if it were to happen it would be very big news indeed). So, yes "done deal" is what it is. In an earlier message, which was quoted again today Jesper Norgaard Welen jnorgard@prodigy.net.mx said: | The first bill introduces a note that clarifies that when using 2:00am in | the bill, it refers to 2:00am standard time, so the DST would run to 25 | March 2007 3:00am (daylight saving time). But the second bill does not | mention that, and states 2:00am both when entering and when leaving DST. See section 3 (the definition of terms) where it says "2am means standard time" (which is in accordance with Aust practice.) While it is often easy to skip the definitions section as being mostly too obvious to bother reading, that's almost always a poor idea, in many cases (not quite so much here) the most interesting parts of an act are found there... kre
Christopher Hunt <huntc@internode.on.net> writes:
The answer appears to be yes - WA are trialing DST for three years. Daylight savings kicks in as follows:
(a) the hour of 2 a.m. on 3 December 2006 until the hour of 2 a.m. on 25 March 2007; and (b) the hour of 2 a.m. on 28 October 2007 until the hour of 10 2 a.m. on 30 March 2008; and (c) the hour of 2 a.m. on 26 October 2008 until the hour of 2 a.m. on 29 March 2009,
Weird. I just followed the URL you gave, which led me to <http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/62D4F7C55EA889934825721...>, and Part 2 s. 4 (page 3) specifies December 1, not December 3. Surely December 3 (a Sunday) is right, but it's a bit disconcerting that the "official" reference gets it wrong. The "official" reference also says that the March transitions are at 3 a.m. local time (2 a.m. standard time). I assume this is right, as it's the Australian tradition. Since the voters of Western Australia may well overturn this change, we'll have to revisit it in February or March. But in the meantime I suppose we should record the "official" rules (corrected to Dec. 3). In Adamson Rust's article "Daylight saving move upsets system guys" today <http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35910>, a "senior technology guy" is quoted as saying "The brainiac wonders who govern (sic) this place have just passed the act to start daylight savings in WA. Starting on the first weekend in Dec. Yes, this December." Western Australia farmers also disapproved of the change. See -- sysadmins and farmers have something in common! I'll propose a patch shortly. Thanks for letting us know.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:36:49 -0800 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU> Message-ID: <87psbfcj6m.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> | Weird. I just followed the URL you gave, which led me to | <http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/62D4F7C55EA889934825721...>, You want Bill175-1B.pdf | and Part 2 s. 4 (page 3) specifies December 1, not December 3. Surely | December 3 (a Sunday) is right, but it's a bit disconcerting that the | "official" reference gets it wrong. The newer one has Dec 3. | The "official" reference also says that the March transitions are at 3 | a.m. local time (2 a.m. standard time). I assume this is right, as | it's the Australian tradition. Yes. | Since the voters of Western Australia may well overturn this change, Yes, but not until sometime in 2009 (sometime between May and September) | we'll have to revisit it in February or March. Not next year. kre
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:36:49 -0800 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU> Message-ID: <87psbfcj6m.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu>
| Weird. I just followed the URL you gave, which led me to | <http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/62D4F7C55EA889934825721...>,
You want Bill175-1B.pdf
Bill 175-1B (Daylight Saving Bill (No.2) 2006) is here: http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/9A1B183144403DA54825721... Andy
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