Wisconsin daylight savings 1957
Hey everyone, I was doing some digging and found the following referendum in 1957 for Wisconsin. - https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time,_Question_1_(April_19...) The text of the measure that passed was: "Shall section 175.095 (2) of the statutes, which proposes a statewide daylight saving time of one hour per day from the last Sunday in April to the last Sunday in September in each year be law beginning with the last Sunday in April 1957?" However, the 1947 ballot to use daylight savings was defeated: https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time_Referendum,_Question_...) In the tz db for North America, it looks like Wisconsin is using America/Chicago which has a few rules for the time period in question: Rule Chicago 1922 1954 - Sep lastSun 2:00 0 S Rule Chicago 1955 1966 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S It appears to me that Wisconsin might need some modification? Is this the correct mailing list for this discussion? Thanks, TJ
On 2021-04-16 20:39, TJ via tz wrote:
Hey everyone,
I was doing some digging and found the following referendum in 1957 for Wisconsin. - https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time,_Question_1_(April_19...)
The text of the measure that passed was: "Shall section 175.095 (2) of the statutes, which proposes a statewide daylight saving time of one hour per day from the last Sunday in April to the last Sunday in September in each year be law beginning with the last Sunday in April 1957?"
However, the 1947 ballot to use daylight savings was defeated: https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time_Referendum,_Question_...)
Indeed the Blue Book p699 gives the county? tally and totals: https://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/WI/WI-idx?type=goto&id=WI.WIBlueBk... For 313 091, Against 379 740. but would not any measure for any change have to be passed in enabling legislation (which could be some kind of Order or Regulation) which specified more details than just "Daylight Saving Time"?
In the tz db for North America, it looks like Wisconsin is using America/Chicago which has a few rules for the time period in question: Rule Chicago 1922 1954 - Sep lastSun 2:00 0 S Rule Chicago 1955 1966 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S
It appears to me that Wisconsin might need some modification? Is this the correct mailing list for this discussion? Thanks,
What are the relevant codes, decrees, laws, orders, regulations, rules, or statutes which establish and change the relevant state law, and are they available online? -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]
On 2021-04-17 00:17, Brian Inglis via tz wrote:
On 2021-04-16 20:39, TJ via tz wrote:
I was doing some digging and found the following referendum in 1957 for Wisconsin. - https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time,_Question_1_(April_19...) The text of the measure that passed was: "Shall section 175.095 (2) of the statutes, which proposes a statewide daylight saving time of one hour per day from the last Sunday in April to the last Sunday in September in each year be law beginning with the last Sunday in April 1957?" However, the 1947 ballot to use daylight savings was defeated: https://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_Daylight_Saving_Time_Referendum,_Question_...)
Indeed the Blue Book p699 gives the county? tally and totals: https://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/WI/WI-idx?type=goto&id=WI.WIBlueBk... For 313 091, Against 379 740. but would not any measure for any change have to be passed in enabling legislation (which could be some kind of Order or Regulation) which specified more details than just "Daylight Saving Time"?
I found a link to the 1947 resolution 4 1947-02-20 enabling the 1947 referendum: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1947/related/joint_resolutions/4.pdf
In the tz db for North America, it looks like Wisconsin is using America/Chicago which has a few rules for the time period in question: Rule Chicago 1922 1954 - Sep lastSun 2:00 0 S Rule Chicago 1955 1966 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S It appears to me that Wisconsin might need some modification? Is this the correct mailing list for this discussion? Thanks,
What are the relevant codes, decrees, laws, orders, regulations, rules, or statutes which establish and change the relevant state law, and are they available online?
I also found the 1957 Blue Book p788 gives the county tally and totals: https://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/WI/WI-idx?type=goto&id=WI.WIBlueBk... For 578 661, Against 480 656 and 1957 act 6 1957-02-27 enabling the 1957 referendum stating DST statute 175.095 will be in effect if passed: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1957/related/acts/6.pdf also 1957 act 556 1957-08-07 changing the legislative definition of time to reference 175.095: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1957/related/acts/556.pdf I have been unable to track down the original act enabling statute 175.09 defining standard time referred to in statute 990.001 giving the legislative definition of time. Later historical changes were easier: 1987 act 8 1987-03-26 changing DST from last to first Sunday in April at 01:00: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1987/related/acts/8 and 2007 act 3 2007-03-06 changing DST start date from 1st Apr to 2nd Mar Sun and from 01:00 to 02:00 until DST end date from last Oct to 1st Nov Sun at 02:00: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2007/related/acts/3/3 1997 act 254 1998-06-04 (sessions are biennium starting odd years) changes only the wording around the penalties for using any different time standards: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1997/related/acts/254/37 and the current statutes for standard and daylight saving times are at: https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/175/09 https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/175/095 -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]
On 4/16/21 7:39 PM, TJ via tz wrote:
In the tz db for North America, it looks like Wisconsin is using America/Chicago which has a few rules for the time period in question: Rule Chicago 1922 1954 - Sep lastSun 2:00 0 S Rule Chicago 1955 1966 - Oct lastSun 2:00 0 S
It appears to me that Wisconsin might need some modification?
If the affected timestamps all predate 1970, we should be OK as far as tzdb is concerned, as Wisconsin would still agree with America/Chicago for timestamps after 1970. Shanks divides Wisconsin into six distinct regions depending timestamp histories before 1970. I expect that none of these histories agree with Chicago's (and I also expect that Shanks' divisions are not completely accurate, and that there may be more than six regions). Surely this would be 'backzone' file material at best, though.
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