FW: Romance Time (forwarded with permission)
Tim Stratford is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. --ado
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Stratford [SMTP:TStratford@oneworldsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:44 AM To: 'ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov' Subject: One quick question please....
Dear Arthur David Olson, Today I was doing research concerning a time zone or aspect of time called Romance Time. The research is for one of our software customers and we cannot find much pertaining to the subject at all. Is their some information which you could supply me about the subject or some resources which I could further research? Thank you very much for your time and cooperation.
Sincerely,
Tim Stratford ONEWORLD Software Solutions Tel. # (617)621-9966 Fax # (617)621-9977
From: Tim Stratford [SMTP:TStratford@oneworldsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:44 AM To: 'ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov' Subject: One quick question please....
Dear Arthur David Olson, Today I was doing research concerning a time zone or aspect of time called Romance Time. The research is for one of our software customers and we cannot find much pertaining to the subject at all. Is their some information which you could supply me about the subject or some resources which I could further research? Thank you very much for your time and cooperation.
'Romance' is the name used for Europe/Paris and Europe/Madrid areas in the Windows time zone database. Hope it helps, Antoine
At 18:49 +0200 2000-06-29, Antoine Leca wrote:
From: Tim Stratford [SMTP:TStratford@oneworldsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:44 AM To: 'ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov' Subject: One quick question please....
Dear Arthur David Olson, Today I was doing research concerning a time zone or aspect of time called Romance Time. The research is for one of our software customers and we cannot find much pertaining to the subject at all. Is their some information which you could supply me about the subject or some resources which I could further research? Thank you very much for your time and cooperation.
'Romance' is the name used for Europe/Paris and Europe/Madrid areas in the Windows time zone database.
Hope it helps,
Antoine
I'm sure someone'll tell me if this is initiating a discussion that is not relevant to the tz mailing list, but it involves keeping track of time on computers... I'm not a Windows afficionado, and I doubt I'll ever be, but the installation where I work now consists mostly of machines running one version of Windows or another (at this stage mostly Windows NT 4). As southeastern Australia (where I am) is starting daylight saving considerably earlier this year than hitherto, I was concerned to know how all our Windows boxes (especially our servers) could be made to behave civilly in this circumstance. I asked a colleage this week about whether a suitable patch or update from Microsoft (for NT) was possible, but he said only service packs, which require bringing down the machine, were issued. The only way we could see of getting around the problem was by setting the machines' time zone to "(GMT +11:00) Magadan, Solomon Is., New Caledonia" until the date when NT thinks daylight saving starts in our zone ("... Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne", from memory). Your (Antoine's) mention of "the Windows time zone database" makes me wonder whether that could be edited instead. I'd also be interested to know if anyone's worked out how to patch Mac OS's Date & Time control panel (presumably its 'cty#' resource) to effect the same adjustment. Thanks for your attention. --Alex _______________ Alex LIVINGSTON Macintosh and Lotus Notes Support / Information Technology (IT) Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM) UNSW SYDNEY NSW 2052 / Australia Facsimile: +61 2 9931-9349 / Telephone: +61 2 9931-9264 Time : UTC+11---[last Mar. Sun.---UTC+10---[last Aug. Sun.---UTC+11--- At midday today, Friday, June 30, time since epoch (1-1-1 at 00:00:00) is 730300.5 days = 1999.49485616 average Gregorian years time until 3rd millennium, 21st century, 201st decade, 2001st year is 184.5 days = .50514384 average Gregorian years
The following URL gives the official Mickeysoft solution to changes in Australian time zones this year. http://www.microsoft.com/australia/support/timezone/2000.htm To change any other timezone problems you have to edit the registry, modifying binary values that I can't find any documentation on. But then that's Mickeysoft for you - can't trust users to fix their bugs for them and won't do it for themselves. Pete PS Where did MS get "Romance Daylight Time" from anyway? Just another of their we-dont-care-what-the-rest-of-the-world-has-as-a-standard-this-is-ours attitudes? Alex LIVINGSTON wrote:
At 18:49 +0200 2000-06-29, Antoine Leca wrote:
From: Tim Stratford [SMTP:TStratford@oneworldsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:44 AM To: 'ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov' Subject: One quick question please....
Dear Arthur David Olson, Today I was doing research concerning a time zone or aspect of time called Romance Time. The research is for one of our software customers and we cannot find much pertaining to the subject at all. Is their some information which you could supply me about the subject or some resources which I could further research? Thank you very much for your time and cooperation.
'Romance' is the name used for Europe/Paris and Europe/Madrid areas in the Windows time zone database.
Hope it helps,
Antoine
I'm sure someone'll tell me if this is initiating a discussion that is not relevant to the tz mailing list, but it involves keeping track of time on computers...
I'm not a Windows afficionado, and I doubt I'll ever be, but the installation where I work now consists mostly of machines running one version of Windows or another (at this stage mostly Windows NT 4).
As southeastern Australia (where I am) is starting daylight saving considerably earlier this year than hitherto, I was concerned to know how all our Windows boxes (especially our servers) could be made to behave civilly in this circumstance. I asked a colleage this week about whether a suitable patch or update from Microsoft (for NT) was possible, but he said only service packs, which require bringing down the machine, were issued. The only way we could see of getting around the problem was by setting the machines' time zone to "(GMT +11:00) Magadan, Solomon Is., New Caledonia" until the date when NT thinks daylight saving starts in our zone ("... Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne", from memory). Your (Antoine's) mention of "the Windows time zone database" makes me wonder whether that could be edited instead.
I'd also be interested to know if anyone's worked out how to patch Mac OS's Date & Time control panel (presumably its 'cty#' resource) to effect the same adjustment.
Thanks for your attention.
--Alex
_______________ Alex LIVINGSTON Macintosh and Lotus Notes Support / Information Technology (IT) Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM) UNSW SYDNEY NSW 2052 / Australia
Facsimile: +61 2 9931-9349 / Telephone: +61 2 9931-9264 Time : UTC+11---[last Mar. Sun.---UTC+10---[last Aug. Sun.---UTC+11---
At midday today, Friday, June 30, time since epoch (1-1-1 at 00:00:00) is 730300.5 days = 1999.49485616 average Gregorian years time until 3rd millennium, 21st century, 201st decade, 2001st year is 184.5 days = .50514384 average Gregorian years
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Alex LIVINGSTON -
Antoine Leca -
Olson, Arthur David (NCI) -
Peter Hullah