Tiraspol (Pridnestrovie)- has abolished seasonal clock change
Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR, also known as "Pridnestrovie")- city Tiraspol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria has abolished seasonal clock change (no transition to the Winter Time). News (in Russian) http://www.kyivpost.ua/russia/news/pridnestrove-otkazalos-ot-perehoda-na- zimnee-vremya-30954.html or http://www.allmoldova.com/moldova-news/1249064116.html translation by Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com: "The president of the unrecognized republic (Pridenstrove), Igor Smirnov signed a decree to abolish transition to the winter time and vice versa." P.S. Moldova (Chisinau), which considers Transnistria its own territory, goes back to the winter time on the last Sunday of October. Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com http://www.worldtimezone.com Guttenberg, New Jersey
Official document signed as Decree № 770 and listed on the web site of the President of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic: http://president.pmr-gov.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2654&... or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_tiraspol01.html Decree № 770 to abolish of the seasonal transition time in the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com http://www.worldtimezone.com Guttenberg, New Jersey --- On Tue, 10/11/11, World Time Zone <worldtimezone@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: World Time Zone <worldtimezone@yahoo.com> Subject: [tz] Tiraspol (Pridnestrovie)- has abolished seasonal clock change To: "Time Zone Mailing List" <tz@iana.org> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 4:31 PM Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR, also known as "Pridnestrovie")- city Tiraspol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria has abolished seasonal clock change (no transition to the Winter Time).
News (in Russian) http://www.kyivpost.ua/russia/news/pridnestrove-otkazalos-ot-perehoda-na- zimnee-vremya-30954.html or http://www.allmoldova.com/moldova-news/1249064116.html
translation by Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com: "The president of the unrecognized republic (Pridenstrove), Igor Smirnov signed a decree to abolish transition to the winter time and vice versa."
P.S. Moldova (Chisinau), which considers Transnistria its own territory, goes back to the winter time on the last Sunday of October.
Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com http://www.worldtimezone.com Guttenberg, New Jersey
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: World Time Zone <worldtimezone@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1318368277.9508.YahooMailClassic@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> | Official document signed as Decree ? 770 and listed on the web site | of the President of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic: | | http://president.pmr-gov.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2654&... If I understand you correctly, the effect of this is to introduce (or re-introduce, since it actually existed once before) a new zone, Europe/Tiraspol that has rules/transitions equivalent to Europe/Chisinau (but presumably a different LMT value - does anyone know Tiraspol's actual longitude?) except with summer time not starting this year on Oct 30 which is when most of the rest of Europe starts, right? If that's it, I'll include this in the next update, which will be released for comment soon, and most likely appear as tzdata2011m on Monday Oct 24. That version will also contain the Bahia Brazil update - you've all already seen what is proposed there (other than the attribution) in the original proposal for tzdata2011l - and for those who need it next week (or right now), all that is needed is to remove the current final entry in the America/Bahia zone definition in tzdata2011l, and uncomment the two replacement lines that follow (and perhaps delete the comment explaining why they were commented...) Are there any other changes that I have missed that should be made now? Lastly, I am not ignoring the code changes that have been requested, nor the doc changes, but none of those appear to be urgent right now, so I think we can afford to wait a little and evaluate and discuss them all more, before making a new version containing any of those changes. kre
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 20:59, Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au> wrote:
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: World Time Zone <worldtimezone@yahoo.com> Message-ID: < 1318368277.9508.YahooMailClassic@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
| Official document signed as Decree ? 770 and listed on the web site | of the President of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic: | | http://president.pmr-gov.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2654&...
If I understand you correctly, the effect of this is to introduce (or re-introduce, since it actually existed once before) a new zone, Europe/Tiraspol that has rules/transitions equivalent to Europe/Chisinau (but presumably a different LMT value - does anyone know Tiraspol's actual longitude?) except with summer time not starting this year on Oct 30 which is when most of the rest of Europe starts, right?
Did you have in mind winter (or standard) time starting at the end of October in the northern hemisphere? Or summer time (not?) ending? -- Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler@gmail.com> #include <disclaimer.h> Guardian of DBD::Informix - v2011.0612 - http://dbi.perl.org "Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused."
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:21:42 -0700 From: Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler@gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAH+RLGFyeEeYnvzfiy9xw9tg4P+9g=3RWOGY8GVngw5oXv9HGw@mail.gmail.com> | Did you have in mind winter (or standard) time starting at the end of | October in the northern hemisphere? Or summer time (not?) ending? As you guessed, I got it backwards - I originally intended to ask if the intent was to remain on (effectively) summer time, or to revert to the previous standard time, and just not resume summer time next year - but then I thought the question was moot as it was just summer time not turning on. Sigh. So, the messages didn't make it clear, and I don't read Moldovian (or Russian, or Romanian, or whatever it is... see just how ignorant I am?) so, what should the offset be on and after Oct 30? kre
Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU> writes:
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:21:42 -0700 From: Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler@gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAH+RLGFyeEeYnvzfiy9xw9tg4P+9g=3RWOGY8GVngw5oXv9HGw@mail.gmail.com>
| Did you have in mind winter (or standard) time starting at the end of | October in the northern hemisphere? Or summer time (not?) ending?
As you guessed, I got it backwards - I originally intended to ask if the intent was to remain on (effectively) summer time, or to revert to the previous standard time, and just not resume summer time next year - but then I thought the question was moot as it was just summer time not turning on.
I think you got it right the first time around. The heading reads: "Pridnestrovie cancelled the transition to Winter Time". The article goes on to describe the reasons for the cancellation, and that the decree was signed on October 10 and will enter into force seven days after it's published. Whether that means Oct 17 they don't write. Moldova, they go on to explain, will enter Winter Time as usual, on the last Sunday of October. That's how Pridnestrovie has done it in the past, too. So my guess is that the zone will be like Chisinau, but without the DST transition that was supposed to occur at the end of October. As to the abbreviation, I'll venture a guess that they are doing this to sync with Ukraine, and that the abbreviation should correspondingly be EFT. (Though I'm on the LST side of the debate.) I'll attach a proposed patch (I didn't change the 1880 offset). Hope this helps, PM
For consistency with the other zones to which we've temporarily ascribed "FET", this most recent change should be effected at a regularly scheduled clock change, not at the date of the decree. Since Europe/Chisinau follows EU rules, we should write the final change to Europe/Tiraspol to resemble our original changes to Ukraine (which have since been rendered invalid). The "UNTIL" date for the penultimate line in Europe/Tiraspol should be "2011 Mar lastSun 1:00u", having been the last forward clock change (to year-round UTC+3/FET). In addition, being situated at +4651+2938 would give Tiraspol a pre-1880 LMT offset of 1:58:32. -- Tim Parenti On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 02:46, Petr Machata <pmachata@redhat.com> wrote:
Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU> writes:
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:21:42 -0700 From: Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler@gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAH+RLGFyeEeYnvzfiy9xw9tg4P+9g=
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| Did you have in mind winter (or standard) time starting at the end of | October in the northern hemisphere? Or summer time (not?) ending?
As you guessed, I got it backwards - I originally intended to ask if the intent was to remain on (effectively) summer time, or to revert to the previous standard time, and just not resume summer time next year - but
then
I thought the question was moot as it was just summer time not turning on.
I think you got it right the first time around.
The heading reads: "Pridnestrovie cancelled the transition to Winter Time". The article goes on to describe the reasons for the cancellation, and that the decree was signed on October 10 and will enter into force seven days after it's published. Whether that means Oct 17 they don't write.
Moldova, they go on to explain, will enter Winter Time as usual, on the last Sunday of October. That's how Pridnestrovie has done it in the past, too.
So my guess is that the zone will be like Chisinau, but without the DST transition that was supposed to occur at the end of October. As to the abbreviation, I'll venture a guess that they are doing this to sync with Ukraine, and that the abbreviation should correspondingly be EFT. (Though I'm on the LST side of the debate.)
I'll attach a proposed patch (I didn't change the 1880 offset).
Hope this helps, PM
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 05:59, Robert Elz <kre@munnari.oz.au> wrote:
a new zone, Europe/Tiraspol that has rules/transitions equivalent to Europe/Chisinau (but presumably a different LMT value - does anyone know Tiraspol's actual longitude?)
Wikipedia puts it at 46° 51′ N, 29° 38′ E (46.85, 29.633333): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiraspol , top right. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
Pridnestrovie (Tiraspol) is reconsidering the abolition of seasonal time in 2011 after neighboring Ukraine reversed its decision to abolish DST and Moldova planned to continue its seasonal clock change. News (in Russian) http://www.kommersant.md/node/5202 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_tiraspol02.html or some translation by Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com: "Transnistrian deputies will once again return to the issue of seasonal time change at the next plenary session of the Pridnestrovie parliament. A deputy chairman of the Committee on Social Policy, Valery Chervonooky expressed the hope that Transnistria (Pridnestrovie), Moldova and Ukraine would have the same time zone" Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com http://www.worldtimezone.com Guttenberg, New Jersey
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