Information wanted #2: Russian Decree #725 vs. tzdata2011k
There are five places where this year's Russian Government Decree #725... http://www.government.ru/gov/results/16355/print/ ...and tzdata2011k differ on what current time is: Place Decree #725 tzdata2011k Notes Bulunskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok Tomponskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok Ust'-Majskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok Ojmyakonskij MSK+7 MSK+8 covered by Asia/Magadan Sakhalin MSK+8 MSK+7 already separate--Asia/Sakhalin Did a change occur in these areas in 2011 and, if so, when? Or is tzdata2011k wrong? Decree #725 indicates that it abrogates Decree #23 of January 8, 1992 (among other things abrogated); is the abrogated decree available online? Thanks for any help folks can provide. --ado
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:25, Arthur David Olson < arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> wrote:
Decree #725 indicates that it abrogates Decree #23 of January 8, 1992 (among other things abrogated); is the abrogated decree available online?
Scans of the decree are available at: http://government.consultant.ru/page.aspx?1223966 They are in Cyrillic letters (presumably Russian). As they are scans (.tiff files), running machine translation may be difficult.
Thanks for any help folks can provide.
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This decree reduced the number of (internal) timezones (/chasovyye poyasa/) in Russia. The boundaries of internal timezones follow the boundaries of international timezones, roughly, but get modified by the administrative borders etc. The USSR spanned 12 zones (2nd to 13th), however, there were large regions observing, in fact, the neighbouring timezone's zonal time (on economical reasons, as I recall). This system was inherited by Russia after 1991. Now there are 9 (previously, there were talks of simplifying the system). -Yury On 09/27/2011 07:25 AM, Arthur David Olson wrote:
There are five places where this year's Russian Government Decree #725... http://www.government.ru/gov/results/16355/print/ ...and tzdata2011k differ on what current time is: ...
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Arthur David Olson <arthurdavidolson@gmail.com> wrote:
There are five places where this year's Russian Government Decree #725... http://www.government.ru/gov/results/16355/print/ ...and tzdata2011k differ on what current time is:
Place Decree #725 tzdata2011k Notes Bulunskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok The claim that this District (Ulus, Raion) was in Asia/Vladivostok is not supported by using
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CIA_WorldFactBook_Time_Zones.svg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulunsky_District and defining the district as not containing the New Siberian Islands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bulynsky_ulus_location.PNG (2007 image has the district without the islands) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Sakha_Republic_-_administrative_divisio... "Map of the uluses of Sakha Republic. The en:New Siberian Islands have a different coulour to indicate that they are not part of any ulus instead it is a natural reserve zone directly under jurisdiction of the Sakha Republic." CIA map from 2010 would have put Bulunskij in MSK+6 at that time.
Tomponskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok Ust'-Majskij MSK+6 MSK+7 covered by Asia/Vladivostok Ojmyakonskij MSK+7 MSK+8 covered by Asia/Magadan
Sakhalin MSK+8 MSK+7 already separate--Asia/Sakhalin
Sakhalin Oblast consists of the Sakhalin Island (several raions) and the Kurils (3 raions). According to http://www.government.ru/gov/results/16355/print/ MSK+8 contains Северо-Курильский район = North Kuril Raion MSK+7 contains all the rest. Currently Theory has Asia/Sakhalin # Sakhalinskaya oblast'. # The Zone name should be Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, but that's too long. Asia/Magadan: # Probably also: Kuril Islands. CIA 2010 has the Kurils at MSK+8 together with Magadan. If CIA was correct then a new zone maybe called Asia/Yuzhno-Kurilsk needs to be created, as proposed 2011-09-22 : http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/4043 Since the southern Kurils switched from Magadan to Vladivostok. Note that Ojmyakonskij may have switched too. But I don't want to write about that, since I am not sure the feedback is read by the maintainers. Unanswered zone proposals: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/4043 Asia/Yuzhno-Kurilsk http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/4011 Asia/Tomsk, Asia/Barnaul http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/3991 Europe/Buesingen -- Tobias Conradi Rheinsberger Str. 18 10115 Berlin Germany http://tobiasconradi.com/tobias_conradi
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